spads25
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Will leaving from a stop in 2nd gear instead of 1st cause any long term damage? I did tonight just to see if it could and the engine didn’t seem to lug or bog.
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And... What's the advantage of starting in 2nd? Why should I do that?
I'm not going to do that, for sure. 1st is made for that, for reason. Never did it with my car, nor my bike...very little, if any advantage or benefits...................so you probably should not.
very little, if any advantage or benefits...................so you probably should not.
In the case of four-wheeled vehicles with manual gear shifting, starting from a higher gear makes sense, if it is done correctly, only if the tires have low road surface grip (snow, black ice, etc). This allows for better steering control at vehicle start, especially for vehicles with rear-wheel drive.And... What's the advantage of starting in 2nd? Why should I do that?
It's not about lazy.Agreed. Don't be lazy. And if you are that lazy, just get a DCT. LOL
By starting in second gear you effectively change the torque multiplier compared to first gear. For example; If you are stopped in some sketchy dirt or gravel and need traction (say, starting at the bottom of a hill) the torque in second gear will be less than in first gear (assuming similar throttle applications). That might enable you to get going rather than just sitting spinning your rear tire in first gear as the tire fights to gain traction due to the higher torque that first gear normally provides.And... What's the advantage of starting in 2nd? Why should I do that?
...2) It helps get up to speed faster...
This would be questionable due to the simple physics: when is the overcoming of inertia easier and the transfer of power greater? In first or second gear?
Wow! That's quite an answer...Anyone who doesn't know how or why should avoid it.
I totally understand your point and, as the manual transmission car owner, use this login having higher gear than it should be. Although, I don't know if this is Camry thing or all cars can do it, even on snow you can start in first barely touching gas pedal and then the next moment let it go. My car will start moving, getting faster, and and in a couple seconds enough movement to upshift to 2nd gear.In the case of four-wheeled vehicles with manual gear shifting, starting from a higher gear makes sense, if it is done correctly, only if the tires have low road surface grip (snow, black ice, etc). This allows for better steering control at vehicle start, especially for vehicles with rear-wheel drive.
Would it make any sense for motorbikes? I really don't see it.
Ok. Now I get it. And, yes, it does make a sense. Just never thought about it, as DCT owner. Although, I think I used the trick often in heavy traffic on my ST1100.By starting in second gear you effectively change the torque multiplier compared to first gear. For example; If you are stopped in some sketchy dirt or gravel and need traction (say, starting at the bottom of a hill) the torque in second gear will be less than in first gear (assuming similar throttle applications). That might enable you to get going rather than just sitting spinning your rear tire in first gear as the tire fights to gain traction due to the higher torque that first gear normally provides.
A controlled throttle hand working in unison with a sensitive clutch hand makes the practice moot for most riders.
Also, a few of the luxury behemoth motorcycles have super low first gears to get all that mass (rider/passenger/kitchen sink/ and more) moving. When traveling light and solo, that granny first gear can be a pain in heavy stop and go traffic so leaving a 1.8 liter 6 cylinder motorcycle in second gear to start off will keep you from a second gear upshift every 30 feet when you have to stop again.