TacomaJD
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Do your street tires tend to develop a tall leading edge? I’ve watched countless Dave moss videos over the years because every tire of mine develops raised leading edges. I tend to throttle through corners lightly, similar to a 5th to 6th gear roll on. I guess that all came from Keith Code twist of the wrist. I figured that is my cause, because on my adventure tires, I tend to maintain constant speed and take it easy while cornering on pavement.Got about 2k miles on the Michelin road 4's on my street NC, and I love them! Grip is as much as I could ask for on the street. Got them a little hot and tacky at Deal's Gap over the weekend. Was really impressed with the grip and feel as I hauled arse over the Skyway and the Dragon.
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Interesting. Did you actually experience the ill effects of the Shinko’s center groove, or did you just look at the tire? I could understand your concern, but I ran a Shinko Raven front for something like 16,000 miles on many varied surfaces and experienced no bad effects from the tire’s center groove. In fact, I like that center groove as it gives a very sure indication of how much tread remains in the center of the tire. Anyway, buy what works for you; I hope the Michelins serve you well.I took look at the Shinko, and they have a center groove in the front tire that our Concrete, Grooved freeways will play havoc with.
Michilin it is. Thanks all for narrowing it down to those for me. Made it a lot easier to choose
I also haven’t experienced any untoward movement with my shinkos and I ride a lot of ill kept highways and some freewayInteresting. Did you actually experience the ill effects of the Shinko’s center groove, or did you just look at the tire? I could understand your concern, but I ran a Shinko Raven front for something like 16,000 miles on many varied surfaces and experienced no bad effects from the tire’s center groove. In fact, I like that center groove as it gives a very sure indication of how much tread remains in the center of the tire. Anyway, buy what works for you; I hope the Michelins serve you well.
I ride on grooved roads and across a number of open grate bridges with my Shinko's....no issues.Let me Clarify... Grooved Concrete
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These are Grooves intentionally cut in the direction of travel to assist with traction when wet, while reducing Road Noise.
Yes, I "Just looked at the Tire" and Decided.
When I paired what I saw, with my previous research and previous experience, I didn't like what I saw.
So I made a decision to not experiment with a tire that had a high probability of having issues on roads I ride a lot.
Would you buy a Racing Slick, to ride on Gravel Roads? No.
I won't buy a Grooved Tire, to ride on Grooved Concrete.
Look, I'm not bashing Shinko, nor am I saying they won't work on Your Road Surfaces.
From what I've read, they are very good tires.
Chuck
What cold psi are you running? Sounds like cupping. My street NC and track NC, especially the track NC, wears the front side of the outermost tread grooves and the back side of the groove tends to "peel up" for lack of a better phrase. This is usually derived from a rear suspension issue, particularly rebound, and I think it's lack of rebound. But I'm not sure if that's the issue you are describing. Powering through corners on the NC probably has very little to do with irregular wear patterns, however, it may be different if you were on a 180-200hp literbike.Do your street tires tend to develop a tall leading edge? I’ve watched countless Dave moss videos over the years because every tire of mine develops raised leading edges. I tend to throttle through corners lightly, similar to a 5th to 6th gear roll on. I guess that all came from Keith Code twist of the wrist. I figured that is my cause, because on my adventure tires, I tend to maintain constant speed and take it easy while cornering on pavement.
Glad you like the Michelin’s… that gives me confidence to try them.
36 front, 42 rear. But only my rear shows significant signs of wear like this. The rebound may be the culprit. With the non adjustable rebound, I do notice when I have a passenger, the wear pattern is more pronounced. Maybe the extra weight makes the shock extend slower creating a slower rebound effect?What cold psi are you running? Sounds like cupping. My street NC and track NC, especially the track NC, wears the front side of the outermost tread grooves and the back side of the groove tends to "peel up" for lack of a better phrase. This is usually derived from a rear suspension issue, particularly rebound, and I think it's lack of rebound. But I'm not sure if that's the issue you are describing. Powering through corners on the NC probably has very little to do with irregular wear patterns, however, it may be different if you were on a 180-200hp literbike.
Air pressure is like oil, everyone has differing opinions. I tend to run same pressure in front and rear, usually 35-38.36 front, 42 rear. But only my rear shows significant signs of wear like this. The rebound may be the culprit. With the non adjustable rebound, I do notice when I have a passenger, the wear pattern is more pronounced. Maybe the extra weight makes the shock extend slower creating a slower rebound effect?
I also run 36 front 42 rear. Bought replacement tires Dunlop roadsmart III and they have harder rubber compound in the centre where you are getting the most wear and softer compound as you move to the sidewalls for grip when leaning in the turns. The best of both worlds for my style of ridingAir pressure is like oil, everyone has differing opinions. I tend to run same pressure in front and rear, usually 35-38.
I'm running the "Raven F009 and R009" by Shinko - note the F denotes Front and R for Rear. Pictured is the wear on the Shinko 5/32" of tread depth @ 5K miles. I did not measure them when new so not sure where they started. I could see it lasting 12K but would be amazed if it got 16K even if run until bald. I don't do burnouts or skids and drive smoothly. Front tire could probably easily go 12K +. The front tire has a odd almost V shaped pattern but the Bridgestone that came with the bike wore the same way..... Did you actually experience the ill effects of the Shinko’s center groove ...I ran a Shinko Raven front for something like 16,000 miles on many varied surfaces and experienced no bad effects from the tire’s center groove.
I did. I haven't tried a lot of tires, but for commuting/light touring the Ravens have been great to me. This is my 4th Raven rear and each has easily lasted over 10,000mi.Did you replace it with another shinko?
I’ve got a shinko R009 being shipped to me right now. Hopefully it will last longer than the last tire
I don't expect that many miles out of them, but if I can get 10K out of them, I would be thrilled. If I got 16K out of them I'd never run any other tire, and might get a Road 5 tattoo lol
If you do get over 16,600 miles out of the front and rear Road 5s, that would be awesome. Please report back when you finally replace them. That kind of mileage and the reduced frequency of replacement could justify their price.