Ackme
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Motorcyclists: always blaming the cage drivers ; }
I'm still going to blame the cagers. /looking for the upside in the post-fact world.
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Motorcyclists: always blaming the cage drivers ; }
At what point do you begin to accelerate? Not a direct question, but kind of a general question for the group to see what folks think.
Ok, I'll bite: As soon as the bike is "settled".At what point do you begin to accelerate? Not a direct question, but kind of a general question for the group to see what folks think.
Stop riding when your mind starts to wander.
At what point do you begin to accelerate? Not a direct question, but kind of a general question for the group to see what folks think.
Hey, DCTFAN, looks like you're getting rain today also. Stuck inside too, eh?
The technique is independent of speed; slow or fast, it is the same. As speed increases, however, you will have to get it turned in that much quicker or you will run wide.
As you lean the bike over, the radius of the tire decreases to the edge; you will actually slow; add throttle to maintain speed. Otherwise, the suspension does compress as you noted earlier and ground clearance decreases along with. You want to keep the suspension up in mid-stroke if possible in the turns. Only one control on the bike does that - throttle.
Trail braking, no. That is a track thing; avoid on the street; don't trade off spare cornering traction for braking if not absolutely necessary.
Brake, turn, maintenance throttle, accelerating throttle out. Smooooth.
We prayed for rain so the trail would be less dusty and we're getting our prayers answered.
As always 'He' just has to show off- raining all day long (amen).
Now there'll be too much mud.
Nein!Stop riding when your mind starts to wander.
I think you incorrectly confuse braking late or going onto the brakes after tipping into the turn with trail braking. Code's books are geared to road racing and continually reference lowering lap times and increasing average track speeds. He almost stands alone in not endorsing or teaching trail braking and the reference you used is almost certainly couched in carrying too much speed into a turn and then braking too hard, or too late, or braking hard after the bike is turning. This is not what trail braking is. He actually does mention the concept of trail braking in a positive light on the top of page 103 (TOTW II)only he does not elaborate.The response was to the notion that trail braking was occurring in the first place. You are correct, sir, it is not a "never" thing. But it remains a track technique. As you said, it is your margin. Should you practice this, yes. Should you strive to become proficient at it, yes. Should you routinely use trail braking as your normal approach to turns, NO.
Chapter 6 of Mr. Ienatsch's book; yes I am familiar with it. Never give up on the brakes in an emergency situation; wholeheartedly agree. But as noted on page 60 insert, trail braking is for fine adjustments, which means you've set your entry speed prior; consistent with Keith Code's training - finish braking at or ahead of the flick, taking advantage of the compressed fork geometry as you transition.
Perform anticipated braking ahead of the turn-in point; good advice for the street. Mr. Code notes in his Twist II book that more bikes are lost attempting to late brake than are lost due to loss of traction off the brakes (trail braking and late braking are the same to me). I will take his word for this.
I re-affirm my advice and practice to the less experienced, of which I am one: save the trail braking for the track, and only on the street if absolutely necessary (i.e. emergency).
Ride safe folks
Then, I would never ever get to leave the house.