Auto store oil change

[Thangmorian]

Is it possible to get filters and oil to perform an oil change on a DCT from an autoparts store? If so what did you use?

I tried doing a search, but I grew old and died...twice. But seriously lots of meandering threads out there without much actual resolution. Someone who's been on the forum longer than me who saved the thread I really need wanna shoot me a link or something.

Yes I have the DCT and need a clutch oil filter too. No I don't want to just get the OEM filter. That's no fun.

 

[OriginalRocket]

Yes.

I haven't found an aftermarket clutch filter. But I use the FRAM ultra speced for a 2002 Honda s2000. And any MA rated oil. Rotella T6 is currently in my X. I may try others, depends on how I feel, and any sales.

Also... How the hell are you getting 70mpg? I've tried riding below 55mph in D mode, on the highway. Still my best was 66. Id love to get 70. Then I could point it out that my big bike is getting more mpg than my speedemon fiancée (future wife) on her little 250r

 

[670cc]

I bought three cases of Valvoline 10w-40 motorcycle specific oil from Autozone a while back when they had a rebate. I think it ended up being $2 or $3 a quart (don't remember). Our Walmart sells it for $4, which isn't bad either. I buy Purolator Pure One oil filters from auto parts stores if/when they have a sale. So my oil changes cost me maybe $15 every 8000 miles.

I don't have DCT so I can't advise on the clutch filter.

 

[Thangmorian]

Yes.

I haven't found an aftermarket clutch filter. But I use the FRAM ultra speced for a 2002 Honda s2000. And any MA rated oil. Rotella T6 is currently in my X. I may try others, depends on how I feel, and any sales.

Also... How the hell are you getting 70mpg? I've tried riding below 55mph in D mode, on the highway. Still my best was 66. Id love to get 70. Then I could point it out that my big bike is getting more mpg than my speedemon fiancée (future wife) on her little 250r

Well it's brand new. I just hit 670 miles on the way to work this morning. I'm not sure if that helps or hinders. All of my riding thus far has been back road, I try to keep it to 60 and under, and acceleration is the bane of MPG. I only crack it open when I'm passing someone. And my commute is pretty hilly 48 miles every day which I'm betting is NOT helping my mileage. Oh and make sure your gas is ethanol free. Also on my MP3 my mpg went right in the crapper as soon as I got on the highway. Of course that was a scooter with a CVT so I'm not sure if this is a contributing factor for you. Around here in winter (I forget the dates, Connecticut) they put 15% ethanol in the gas. Although I've heard the high test doesn't get the ethanol. Ethanol lowers the energy content of the gas lowering your mpg. It also lowers the emissions, which is why the do it in winter. The real question is how are people getting 77mpg like the guy one post up. Flat, no wind, light accerleration? Is that your secret 670cc?

 

[Thangmorian]

I bought three cases of Valvoline 10w-40 motorcycle specific oil from Autozone a while back when they had a rebate. I think it ended up being $2 or $3 a quart (don't remember). Our Walmart sells it for $4, which isn't bad either. I buy Purolator Pure One oil filters from auto parts stores if/when they have a sale. So my oil changes cost me maybe $15 every 8000 miles.

I don't have DCT so I can't advise on the clutch filter.

I'm not holding my breath on the clutch filter. Out of curiosity why do you use 10W-40? My owners manual states 10W-30 on page 66 and again on page 153. Did earlier bikes require the heavier weight, or is it just your preference?

 

[DirtFlier]

I seriously doubt if you can find an aftermarket clutch filter for the DCT model. It's very small and in the older days something that size would have been considered a fuel filter element.

 

[Thangmorian]

Yes.

snip But I use the FRAM ultra speced for a 2002 Honda s2000. snip

So based on a 2002 s2000 I did some searches of my local auto parts stores. Here's what also fits a 2002 S2000, so I'm assuming they will fit our bikes.

AutoZone:

AC Delco PF1127S na
Bosch 3312 6.99
Bosch Distance Plus D3312 13.99
Fram PH7317 4.99
Fram Toughguard TG7317 6.99
Fram Ultraguard XG7317 9.99
Mobil 1 M1-104 12.99
Motorcraft FL810 na
K&N HP-1004 13.99
K&N KN-303 15.99
K&N Pro Series PS-1004 5.99
Royal Purple 10-2808 14.99
STP S2808 3.69

Advance Auto:

AC Delco PF1127 5.79
Beck Arnley 041-8163 8.39
Bosch Distance Plus D3312 14.19
Driveworks DW-7759 3.69
Fram HP15 11.99
Fram PH7317 5.49
Fram High Mileage HM7317 9.99
Fram Ultraguard XG7317 10.29
Mobil 1 M1-104 12.99
Motorcraft FL810 5.99
K&N HP-1004 13.99
K&N Pro Series PS-1004 8.39
Luberfiner PH2808 8.99
Promotive PH4612 5.69
Purlator Classic L14459 4.29
Purolator Pure One PL14459 6.99
Purolator Synthetic PSL 14459 10.49
Royal Purple 10-2808 15.99

Clearly there is a wide gap in prices here STP Driveworks at $3.69 to Royal Purple at $15.99, so there must be a quality difference, But I'm not going to go there

And since some of us shop on Amazon I looked up the Royal Purple filter and I found it for $11.16. Happy Hunting

 

[OriginalRocket]

I'm not holding my breath on the clutch filter. Out of curiosity why do you use 10W-40? My owners manual states 10W-30 on page 66 and again on page 153. Did earlier bikes require the heavier weight, or is it just your preference?

I went with a 40 weight due to hard to find 30 weight MA rated oil. Plus as it has been widely reported, either 30, or 40 may be used according to the service manual.

And after 8000 miles, I suspect my 5w-40 T6 will shear down to a low 30 anyways.

As for why I use the 2002 s2000 as my reference... I know this filter threads onto a Honda block, and it is larger than all the other OEM Honda filters. The s2000 engine was built at a pinnacle of tolerances and performance. So the oil (in my theory) would have to be well controlled for flow and contamination.

Plus I've used in on my 2005 civic, 2001 Integra GS-R, 1994 Integra LS. So why change.

I don't subscribe to the "motorcycles need motorcycle oil filters" They are sometimes double the price of an auto oil filter.

 

[davidc83]

My owners manual on Page 60 states 10w30; however, my service manual (don't know the page #) states 10w30 or 10w40. As long as the oil does not contain ''energy conserving additives" it is good to go.

 

[670cc]

I'm not holding my breath on the clutch filter. Out of curiosity why do you use 10W-40? My owners manual states 10W-30 on page 66 and again on page 153. Did earlier bikes require the heavier weight, or is it just your preference?

You are correct that the Honda NC700X owners manual calls for 10W-30 oil. However, the Honda NC700X Service manual has an ambient temperature chart which allows for either 10W-30 or 10W-40 to be used in the NC700X. I use 10W-40 because it is far more easy to obtain at reasonable prices in motorcycle specific oil. Using the heavier weight had no negative impact on fuel economy, as you can see by my 77 mpg figure.

 

[Thangmorian]

Also found this website when looking for alternate clutch filters www.servicehonda.com/parts/lookup It has illustrated parts break downs for tons of Hondas, not just ours.

 

[670cc]

Also found this website when looking for alternate clutch filters Service Honda It has illustrated parts break downs for tons of Hondas, not just ours.

Pretty much every on-line parts source has illustrated parts listings for nearly every make and model. Procaliber.com is generally cheapest. Example: the NC700X air cleaner at Service Honda = $34.80. Procaliber.com = $30.48

 

[Thangmorian]

Pretty much every on-line parts source has illustrated parts listings for nearly every make and model.

Well I was excited!