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Almost Got Smeared

Road Rage
Noun:
Violent anger caused by the stress and frustration involved in driving a motor vehicle.

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It was not rage, it was to announce my position. I don't want loud pipes announcing my position at all times any more than I would want to wire the horn directly to the running lights. I want to make noise when necessary. As far as pipes, they point the noise the wrong direction. I passed a loud Harley going the other way yesterday and I didn't hear it until it passed, then I heard it plenty. If he was concerned about safety, I don't understand the cereal bowl on his head or bare hands and arms. Yes, the 2nd Amendment sys he has the right to bare arms.

Look Bob, you and I are neither going to agree, nor convince the other. I said I had no more to say and I'm still at it. I am going to try to avoid follow-ups because you have hit a sore topic with me and I don't want to lose my sunny disposition or create ill will on the board. In my opinion, loud pipes risk rights. I think loud pipes are inconsiderate of others just like a loud stereo. I saw a small child in a car I passed cover her ears when I went by (quietly). She was expecting painful noise. Your right to swing your arms ends at my nose.
 
It was not rage, it was to announce my position. I don't want loud pipes announcing my position at all times any more than I would want to wire the horn directly to the running lights. I want to make noise when necessary. As far as pipes, they point the noise the wrong direction. I passed a loud Harley going the other way yesterday and I didn't hear it until it passed, then I heard it plenty. If he was concerned about safety, I don't understand the cereal bowl on his head or bare hands and arms. Yes, the 2nd Amendment sys he has the right to bare arms.

Look Bob, you and I are neither going to agree, nor convince the other. I said I had no more to say and I'm still at it. I am going to try to avoid follow-ups because you have hit a sore topic with me and I don't want to lose my sunny disposition or create ill will on the board. In my opinion, loud pipes risk rights. I think loud pipes are inconsiderate of others just like a loud stereo. I saw a small child in a car I passed cover her ears when I went by (quietly). She was expecting painful noise. Your right to swing your arms ends at my nose.

I totaly agree with you but I have been having this debate on another NC forum and as you say we are never going to convince the loud pipe brigade or them us so basically both sides are wasting their breath or should that be finger muscles
 
One thing we likely agree on.....loud pipes annoy the non-riding public and there are numerous communities that have passed anti-motorcycle ordinances. We all may suffer loss of privileges to ride because of a few.

When I hear some jerk wringing the neck of his open-piped bike I think "that guy's parents just didn't get the job done". His rights to loud pipes end at the ears of everyone else and this is nothing but self-centered selfish behavior. The thing is, they are almost always riding slow and in the way on a good motorcycle road. Go figure.
 
" In my opinion, loud pipes risk rights. I think loud pipes are inconsiderate of others just like a loud stereo."


I know some guy's like loud pipes. Its usually the ones that have them. I went through a phase when I was young when I thought they were cool also.
There is nothing that pisses me off more than some idiot making noise for attention.
I do like the rumble of a Jake brake or a Harley sometimes, but at 3:00 am when I'm rocking a sick baby is not the time to do this crap!
I have stuff that makes a hell of a lot more noise than open pipes or Jake brakes, but I try to respect others in the process.
Of course when I'm protecting my property or animals, my neighbors sometimes hear a single loud pop and crack at late hours.
But they understand the reasons for those mishaps, as I do when I hear the same from them.
 
I could have done with you guys as support on the other forum where some of the youngsters pilloried me for being old and boring just because I pointed out the dangers to motorcycling that you have mentioned
 
I could have done with you guys as support on the other forum where some of the youngsters pilloried me for being old and boring just because I pointed out the dangers to motorcycling that you have mentioned

:D I know what you mean
 
It was not rage, it was to announce my position. I don't want loud pipes announcing my position at all times any more than I would want to wire the horn directly to the running lights. I want to make noise when necessary. As far as pipes, they point the noise the wrong direction. I passed a loud Harley going the other way yesterday and I didn't hear it until it passed, then I heard it plenty. If he was concerned about safety, I don't understand the cereal bowl on his head or bare hands and arms. Yes, the 2nd Amendment sys he has the right to bare arms.

Look Bob, you and I are neither going to agree, nor convince the other. I said I had no more to say and I'm still at it. I am going to try to avoid follow-ups because you have hit a sore topic with me and I don't want to lose my sunny disposition or create ill will on the board. In my opinion, loud pipes risk rights. I think loud pipes are inconsiderate of others just like a loud stereo. I saw a small child in a car I passed cover her ears when I went by (quietly). She was expecting painful noise. Your right to swing your arms ends at my nose. QUOTE]


Do you think Redhead or the Blonde attracts more attention? I think the Redhead does.

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All of us here may agree or not agree on a deeper exhaust note for our safety. We as riders need ALL the help we can get to let others on the road know we are out there. Whether it be bright clothing, bright colored motorcycles, "Silver and Black sucks for our safety" or a little more exhaust note. Always ride defensively and not offensively.

I KNOW THAT THE NIGHT I WAS GOING TO PULL OUT OF THE PARKING LOT AND ONTO THE ROADWAY. I DID NOT SEE THE MOTORCYCLE COMING BUT I DID HEAR HIM COMING. THE PIPES DID SAVE HIS LIFE THAT NIGHT AND I AM GRATEFUL THAT THEY DID. AMEN!


Let us all use the 5 senses we we born with to help protect us when we are out on the roadway. Hearing, sight, touch, smell and taste. Some of us are born with a sixth sense. I happen to be one of them.

Sixth Sense
Noun:
A supposed intuitive faculty giving awareness not explicable in terms of normal perception: "some sixth sense told him he was not alone".
 
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One thing we likely agree on.....loud pipes annoy the non-riding public and there are numerous communities that have passed anti-motorcycle ordinances. We all may suffer loss of privileges to ride because of a few.

When I hear some jerk wringing the neck of his open-piped bike I think "that guy's parents just didn't get the job done". His rights to loud pipes end at the ears of everyone else and this is nothing but self-centered selfish behavior. The thing is, they are almost always riding slow and in the way on a good motorcycle road. Go figure.

And likely wearing ear plugs..
 
I hope that one day you will experience saving a man or woman's life for having a louder exhaust note as I did. It is a good feeling. God Speed Cyclerosis!

Bob, I've always tried to refrain from making detracting comments about an individual's personal preference. That includes topics like politics and religion. What works for some, doesn't for others. So, while I have a disdain for loud pipes because of some of the aforementioned detracting comments, I've had many riding companions that prefer loud pipes for some of the safety concerns you and others have mentioned.

My personal preference for safety on two wheels is to stay in a pocket. Maintain good distance from the bumper in front of you. Don't ride directly to either side of a motorist in a car because you're likely in their blind spot. On roads with merging traffic or intersecting roads, keep an eye out for people preparing to enter your lane from an intersecting road by watching for their tire rotation or whether or not they've turned their wheel to one side or another. In other words, don't zone out. Because of a biker's smaller foot print, a lot of times we may not get noticed. And that's where our preparedness comes in handy.

To end this short narrative, following all the above while motoring in a car, has improved my driving skills as well. I'm acutely more aware of my surroundings because of trying to develop these good habits. And I'll always remember that "what you do by habit, is what you'll do in a panic situation". (from David L. Hough's book Proficient Motorcycling)

Matter of fact, after posting this, I think I'll look to see if there's an opening in an experienced riders course nearby. Cheers everyone!
 
Bob, I've always tried to refrain from making detracting comments about an individual's personal preference. That includes topics like politics and religion. What works for some, doesn't for others. So, while I have a disdain for loud pipes because of some of the aforementioned detracting comments, I've had many riding companions that prefer loud pipes for some of the safety concerns you and others have mentioned.

My personal preference for safety on two wheels is to stay in a pocket. Maintain good distance from the bumper in front of you. Don't ride directly to either side of a motorist in a car because you're likely in their blind spot. On roads with merging traffic or intersecting roads, keep an eye out for people preparing to enter your lane from an intersecting road by watching for their tire rotation or whether or not they've turned their wheel to one side or another. In other words, don't zone out. Because of a biker's smaller foot print, a lot of times we may not get noticed. And that's where our preparedness comes in handy.

To end this short narrative, following all the above while motoring in a car, has improved my driving skills as well. I'm acutely more aware of my surroundings because of trying to develop these good habits. And I'll always remember that "what you do by habit, is what you'll do in a panic situation". (from David L. Hough's book Proficient Motorcycling)

Matter of fact, after posting this, I think I'll look to see if there's an opening in an experienced riders course nearby. Cheers everyone!

What does all this SHORT NARRATING have to do with me possibly saving a life because I heard the motorcycle coming and not seeing it?
 
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Can someone pat me on the back for possibly saving a life on 10/4/12?
 
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What does all this SHORT NARRATING have to with me possibly saving a life because I heard the motorcycle coming and not seeing it?

To end this short narrative, following all the above while motoring in a car, has improved my driving skills as well. I'm acutely more aware of my surroundings because of trying to develop these good habits. And I'll always remember that "what you do by habit, is what you'll do in a panic situation". (from David L. Hough's book Proficient Motorcycling)

That's all for me too...
 
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