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I love the simple clutch-less shifting ... I use my DCT in manual mode 99% of the time, using the paddle shifters (or the footswitcher I installed). I just like not have to pull a clutch and deal with stoplights. Of course, adding the automatic shifting is, well, "automatic" once you have clutch-less shifting. Wish this technology would catch on with other manufacturers -- would love to have other choices!
Probably a combination of several factors. I'd guess it is a combination of CO$T, weight and perhaps even the added size/shape required that may not fit well into the smaller bikes.For several years now, at the big bike shows and demo events, I always check the clutch pull on any bike I'm interested in first. I like using my bikes to ride everywhere, which means getting stuck in heavy traffic sometimes. My aging wrist just can't take that kind of abuse.
Is it possible that DCT isn't offered on many smaller bikes due to the extra weight it ads? Or is it because, for the most part, smaller bikes have reasonably light clutch pull?
I loved how light it is on the Versys X300 and the 125's from Kawasaki.
What an amazing breed. We've had several of them over the past 30 years. Best, absolutely best breed of dog/companion/friend ever.... But I want the NCx for touring and a side car so my Akita can ride with me in town.
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Haha! That reminded me of the video comparing manual NC700X to DCT, and the DCT won a race. However, a very close look at the rear view of the two bikes in the race showed that they both had parking brakes. Hey, wait a minute! Those are both DCT! In the fine print it was then explained that they were both DCT bikes but one of the DCT bikes was ridden with a slight throttle delay at the shift pounts, simulating shifting a manual, and thus it was proven that the “real” DCT won. Makes for a real, honest comparison, don’t you think? What a joke. Actually I wouldn’t give a hoot which version is faster in a drag race.
Here was the text associated with the video, with my emphasis on the “cheat”. I’ll bet few people actually read this fine print.:
”The Honda nc700x is famous for economy and practicality, not for acceleration. But how slow is it really, with a heavy driver on board. In this test I wanted to compare automatic and a manual clutch bike, which I had to simulate by throttling between each shift on my dct version. This test indicates that the dual transmission doesn't loose power during shifting. and that it would be hard for the clutch version to keep up. Let's see the result in seconds. The time reveals that each clutching or throttling cost me about half a second. Even with manual shifting the dct is still one second faster, indicating that it's the dual clutch technology that is important, not the automation itself. So it shouldn't be any surprise that more than one third of the nc700 customers choose the dct version.”
"Actually I wouldn’t give a hoot which version is faster in a drag race. "
hah hah, made me remember the old joke that went something like : winning that race is like bragging about having the biggest cock in <some place where they all have small cocks>.
"Actually I wouldn’t give a hoot which version is faster in a drag race. "
It is simply a measure of performance. Like braking, mpg or top speed.
No. But I see no reason to go back to a hand clutch/manual shifter. Learn to master a DCT and it is, almost magic.