DCT question

[Whiteknuckle]

So since i still have to wait two months for my NC750X. I have a few questions i am curious about.

As far as i can see the bike automatically down shifts when you come to a stop. But what happens when you ARE stopped?
Say at a light, is the bike in effect just like if you were in first gear with the clutch in or does it switch to neutral?

Assuming the bike when stopped is in gear but with clutch in, what happens if you then shut the bike off? is it "in gear" or
neutral? I am guessing it is not "in gear" because the bike has a parking brake. Or do you have to manually select neutral before
you shut off the bike?

 

[drdubb]

When you stop at a light, the clutch is disengaged. Don't blip the throttle!

If you stop and shut off the engine, the bike is still in gear. When you restart, it will move to neutral. You will then have to put it into gear. (D or S)

If you want to move it around the garage, turn on the ignition, it will shift to neutral, you don't actually restart the engine.

or shift to neutral before shutting down.

 

[Whiteknuckle]

interesting. Thanks Dr.

everything so far i read about the DCT told me how it works but not what it does in those instances i asked about. I only know of scooter CVT trans and what happens when stopped.
so the DCT when stopped is ready to go? as u say do not blip. Does it work like an auto car? in that when u release the brake the car moves forward from idle speed. Does the DCT work
the same way?

as for shutting off "in gear" does it then work like a regular gearbox bike? wont roll when in gear?

 

[DCTFAN]

Read this first

I think it will answer your question.

 

[670cc]

The DCT does not creep when the brake is released even when engaged in drive or sport mode. It does not move until you begin to open the throttle. The gearbox is in first gear but the clutch is not engaged. It's like you have a manual transmission with the clutch lever pulled in. There is no fluid coupled torque converter that causes the creeping as in most automatic cars.

The DCT clutch engages in a similar way to the CVT clutch, except it happens immediately and seamlessly right when you begin to throttle up. You don't need to spin up some rpm first to get the clutch engaged as on a CVT.

As a side note, I'm puzzled as to why some people have a desire to blip a bike's throttle when sitting still. I don't blip my motorcycles, scooter, car, boat, motorhome, or tractor. They all idle just fine.

 

[ChilliRider]

About blipping--I got into the habit when riding 'lead' in groups (particularly with my wife) as a 'signal' we were about to move off at an intersection with a stop sign, for example, or pull out into traffic. I will need to break this habit completely when I get the DCT in April, possibly a week or so before Whiteknuckle gets his

 

[Whiteknuckle]

Thanks for the link DCTFAN. Expains it all pretty well. Never got into the habit of blipping so i should be good. Since i have lots of scooter riding experience that will transfer well to the DCT. I have read that on scooters it a good idea
to start the bike while NOT on the centre stand. As if you start the bike and then bump the bike forward to get off the stand you can accidentally twist the wrist and off you go. So i have heard. I have never done that of course

April. That would be too cool to get them by then. Just hope if it is May it is early May and not the end. Look forward to doing the "Coke" on the bike. But not until probably June. I did that in 2012 on a CBR250R at end of May and it was spooky.
Still cold and snowy up there. (Highway 5 is known as the Coquihalla Highway (colloquially "the Coq"; pronounced "coke"), 186 km (116 mi) of freeway, varying between four and six lanes with a posted speed limit of 120 km/h (75 mph). The Coquihalla approximately traces through the Cascade Mountains the route of the former Kettle Valley Railway, which existed between 1912 and 1958. It is so-named because near Hope, it generally follows the Coquihalla River, for about 60 km (37 mi), and uses the Coquihalla Pass.)

BTW - if ChillRider gets the NC in April, let it be known that he "stole" MY bike

 

[DirtFlier]

[...As a side note, I'm puzzled as to why some people have a desire to blip a bike's throttle when sitting still...]

I call it the "Harley Syndrome" because some (a great many?) of those bikes don't like to idle in hot weather. It also calls attention so people will look at you. When I was an MSF instructor I had one student who did that every time he stopped so I asked why are you doing that? He had no answer. :-(

 

[Whiteknuckle]

here is what it looks like on "the coke" today. This portion is on the long steep climb from Hope BC to Merritt. The Coke is about 120km btwn Hope and Merritt. This slope is very steep, like average 9 degrees and is steady for upwards of 40 -50 km.
Trucks slow to a crawl up this slope. When i rode it on my 250 it did it ok but had to drop to 5th to maintain speed. The following year i rode it on a Ninja650 and just flew up easily at 160kph. Looks pretty snowy up there this year.
Down where i am in Vancouver (approx 130km from Hope) we got zero snow this year. Temps of around 4c low and 10c highs

 

[ChilliRider]

BTW - if ChillRider gets the NC in April, let it be known that he "stole" MY bike

Haha--you will get yours Whiteknuckle and if it turns out my bike was the one that your dealer wanted to snag for you, I will buy you breakfast on our first ride together. Cheers!