Turn signal relay for LED turn signals

[hojo]

I put the LED Turn Signal Relay in on my 2014 and the turn signals still blink very rapidly.

Lighting - Flash Controller - Honda - Relay - Turn Signal LED - 4 Pin

 

[Brillot2000]

I put the LED Turn Signal Relay in on my 2014 and the turn signals still blink very rapidly.

I have not installed mine yet, because the vendor has not shipped the remaining LED Bulbs to me yet. I need to follow up with that vendor again. I paid those SOBs, Where's my stuff people?

I will let you know how my installation goes, once I get all the LED Bulbs for this project.

 

[hojo]

Is the turn signal relay on the 2012 in the same location as the 2014; under the left air vent?

 

[FrankQC]

Also, didn't someone modify the stock relay? I can't find the thread.

I did a while ago, still working great. 10 minutes removal, 10 minutes modification, 10 minutes reinstall. Cost: free.

http://nc700-forum.com/forum/nc700-news/356-1156-led-replacement-bulb-review-2.html#post34862

 

[Brillot2000]

I put the LED Turn Signal Relay in on my 2014 and the turn signals still blink very rapidly.

Lighting - Flash Controller - Honda - Relay - Turn Signal LED - 4 Pin

I finally received this unit and installed only one LED Replacement bulb and I experienced the same as you did. I figured out at a minor modification needs to be done for it function correctly. You will need to remove the cover, which can be remove very easily and then remove at least one of the resistors as noted in the image below. Be careful not to used the modified unit with 3 regular bulbs, it will "FRY" the unit. I speak for experience here.

 

[Brillot2000]

I did a while ago, still working great. 10 minutes removal, 10 minutes modification, 10 minutes reinstall. Cost: free.

http://nc700-forum.com/forum/nc700-news/356-1156-led-replacement-bulb-review-2.html#post34862

I also tried this and it do not work for me. I had to go a different route regarding this. I'll have to how this in a different post though, too much to explain now without the all the images on what I had to do.

 

[gboswellsac]

I ordered the flasher unit off ebay ... went to get 2 led 1156 and 2 led 1157 (front) on Amazon and the number of reviews noting DOA and quick dying scares me. Where are you all getting your leds. Thanks Boz

 

[Brillot2000]

I ordered the flasher unit off ebay ... went to get 2 led 1156 and 2 led 1157 (front) on Amazon and the number of reviews noting DOA and quick dying scares me. Where are you all getting your leds. Thanks Boz

Be very careful of which Replacement LED Bulbs that you get, not all are created equal. I would recommend the same ones that I used from www.autolumination.com in Amber, not Red or White...



I have been using these on my ST1300 for months now and they are "AWESOME"...

 

[Brillot2000]

Here's the full information regarding me LED Turn Signal Conversion. Please follow along with the image in my Installation Album.

I recommend the following items, which I used for this conversion.

1. Replacement LED Bulbs in both 1157 and 1156 in Amber 2 of each from www.autolumination.com
   
   
   
2. Replacement Flasher Unit rated for use with LEDs, I got them from Amazon.

Installation Process:

1. Remove the left scoop cover, per the recommended procedure.
2. The Flasher Unit now can be accessed through the access hole.
3. Remove the Flasher Unit completely.
4. The recommended Flasher Unit will require modification, mainly removing a resistor from PCB to ensure correct operation. Please refer to the notes on the corresponding image for details.
   
   
   
   
5. Once the modification has been completed. Install the cover back onto the unit and then onto the motorcycle.
6. Remove all the lens on the turn signal and then bulbs. Follow by installing the LED Bulbs into their corresponding locations.
7. Re-install all the lens and motor happy down the highway...

After modifying the flasher unit. Do not use 2 or more incandescent light bulbs, as this will cause the flasher unit to be damaged. The flasher unit will no longer function afterwards. I found this out the hard way.

 

[Brillot2000]

As I mentioned in one of my earlier post regarding the modified Flasher unit described in post #29 regarding damaging the unit. Well, I did not find this out until I saw a cloud of smoke coming out from the unit. As a result, I had to come up with a different solution.

Here's what I can up with. I decided to made an adapter to use an Off-The-Shelf (OTS) Flasher Unit rate for use with LED to replace the OEM Unit for use with LED Turn Signals. The flasher unit that I choose to use was available at a popular automotive parts supply chain (Pep Boys) in my area. Check out my Build Procedure Album for this adapter.

 

[gboswellsac]

As I mentioned in one of my earlier post regarding the modified Flasher unit described in post #29 regarding damaging the unit. Well, I did not find this out until I saw a cloud of smoke coming out from the unit. As a result, I had to come up with a different solution.

Here's what I can up with. I decided to made an adapter to use an Off-The-Shelf (OTS) Flasher Unit rate for use with LED to replace the OEM Unit for use with LED Turn Signals. The flasher unit that I choose to use was available at a popular automotive parts supply chain (Pep Boys) in my area. Check out my Build Procedure Album for this adapter.

Just so I don't screw up again. You are saying to do the changes to the flasher unit from the X or also make changes to the flasher unit purchased off ebay below, or get different unit and make the changes you have outlined. I think buying the bulbs is a no brainer as the same company provided my LED headlight (your recommendation again) and they turned out to be a great outfit.

The flasher unit I ordered :
Honda LED 4 Pin Relay Turn Signal for Flash Rate Lights GL1800 ST1300 VT750
Item id: 161349050601
Transaction id: 1213836994006
Estimated Delivery:
Friday, February 6

Hopefully I'm not being to much a pain in the butt. Thanks Boz

 

[Brillot2000]

Just so I don't screw up again. You are saying to do the changes to the flasher unit from the X or also make changes to the flasher unit purchased off ebay below, or get different unit and make the changes you have outlined. I think buying the bulbs is a no brainer as the same company provided my LED headlight (your recommendation again) and they turned out to be a great outfit.

The flasher unit I ordered :
Honda LED 4 Pin Relay Turn Signal for Flash Rate Lights GL1800 ST1300 VT750
Item id: 161349050601
Transaction id: 1213836994006
Estimated Delivery:
Friday, February 6

Hopefully I'm not being to much a pain in the butt. Thanks Boz

No Worries!!!

The unit that you ordred looks a lot like the one that I purchased. As mentioned you will need to remove 2 resistors where I noted if you are going to use LEDs in all the siganals. Removing surface mounted components sometimes can be tricky as you have to heat both sides to lift the resistor away from their pads.

I only made the adpator that I referred to the previous post because I "Toasted" mine. Also I wanted something that is more available anywhere, not just at the Honda Dealer or ebay.

 

[hojo]

I ended up just putting in the resistors inline with the bulbs, it was an easy project and works perfect. I gave my LED Relay to a friend and it worked fine with 2 led turn signal bulbs but with 4, they still flash fast, just not as fast as without a relay or resistor. We plan on putting in resistors on the rears bulbs.

 

[Brillot2000]

I ended up just putting in the resistors inline with the bulbs, it was an easy project and works perfect. I gave my LED Relay to a friend and it worked fine with 2 led turn signal bulbs but with 4, they still flash fast, just not as fast as without a relay or resistor. We plan on putting in resistors on the rears bulbs.

From an energy savings standpoint, you are not gaining anything and could be losing more energy than before. By adding the "Load Stabilization Resistors", you are reinserting the current draws of the incandescent bulbs.

 

[Fuzzy]

Headlight is a big bulb on all the time. Is there really any concern with current draw of stock turn signals?

 

[hojo]

Headlight is a big bulb on all the time. Is there really any concern with current draw of stock turn signals?

No I'm not concerned. The clear (white) turn signal bulbs that are white when not turning (when the turn signal is on, the bulb turns to amber) stand out more than the low beam OEM headlight, making me very happy.

 

[Brillot2000]

Headlight is a big bulb on all the time. Is there really any concern with current draw of stock turn signals?

That only matters if want to eliminate 4 Amps of draw per set of 2 signals compared to less than 1 Amp with the LEDs. It matters to me, as I want NaNCy to be 100% LED Lighting.

 

[L.B.S.]

From an energy savings standpoint, you are not gaining anything and could be losing more energy than before. By adding the "Load Stabilization Resistors", you are reinserting the current draws of the incandescent bulbs.

Plus if those inline resistors are similar to the ones I've seen, they get hot! My buddy put a set of Oxford LED turn signals on his bike, and they came with resistors. Big long ceramic blocks the size of a pack of chewing gum, for each turn signal. Wrapped in thick heat shrink, they would still burn your fingers, and melt any plastic in contact.

 

[Brillot2000]

Plus if those inline resistors are similar to the ones I've seen, they get hot! My buddy put a set of Oxford LED turn signals on his bike, and they came with resistors. Big long ceramic blocks the size of a pack of chewing gum, for each turn signal. Wrapped in thick heat shrink, they would still burn your fingers, and melt any plastic in contact.

That's what happens when your dissipating energy, it's giving off all that heat as a result. Not good anyway you look at...

 

[showkey]

That only matters if want to eliminate 4 Amps of draw per set of 2 signals compared to less than 1 Amp with the LEDs. It matters to me, as I want NaNCy to be 100% LED Lighting.

And the benifits are ...............?