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The 2018 and 2019 brake looks nothing like that.
Post #16 by 670cc, only 2012-2013 ABS bikes had linked brakes with the three piston front caliper. Linked brakes did not appear on 2014 and later bikes.
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The 2018 and 2019 brake looks nothing like that.
Pharfar - you stated a brake balance of "70/30" but I don't think you can apply such numbers to a motorcycle that has separate controls for front & rear brakes and perhaps linked system. The brake balance numbers are more for cars where one brake pedal operates front & rear brakes and there is a proportioning valve in the hydraulic system to maintain that balance.
Post #16 by 670cc, only 2012-2013 ABS bikes had linked brakes with the three piston front caliper. Linked brakes did not appear on 2014 and later bikes.
HONDA said:DISC BRAKES WITH AVAILABLE COMBINED ABS
Single front and rear disc brakes give the NC750X great stopping power. The DCT model comes with ABS brakes that are linked rear-to-front for added stopping power, even under challenging conditions.
The definitions of linked and combined are not clear to me. On the 2012 and 2013, it was obvious what was going on, since the plumbing and hardware were right there to see.
What would be interesting is to raise one wheel on a 2014-2019 ABS model, spin the wheel, and operate the brake for the other wheel to see if it has any effect on the spinning wheel. Are they linked in any way? Are they linked only if ABS is activated? Did the brake design change in 2014? In 2016?
Perhaps the easiest way to determine if your NC has a linked system is to check the front caliper. If it has 3 pistons and 2 bleeder screws it's part of a linked system.
If it’s that simple, and perhaps it is, then Honda is supplying false information on their web site for current 2019 models. The current web page claims that the 2019 ABS model’s brakes are linked, but we can see that the front caliper has two pistons and it’s fed by one brake hose...
Appears that may be the case.Maybe instead of using an extra brake line to control the center piston on the front caliper when applying rear brake, they use an abs block similar to the harley's that somehow proportions a percentage of the front brake pressure when applying rear brake.
Linked would also mean applying front brakes should affect rear brake too, right? If so, how does it do that? Same concept? I wouldn't think "linked" brakes only apply when using the rear brake.
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Yes, we did this with a 2018 DCT when I worked at the dealership. The brakes aren't linked front to rear, rear to front, or at all. This is an old topic rehashed. Who knows why Honda doesn't change the website. They did change it from linked to "2 Channel ABS" with DCT models at some point. I didn't bother to look it up today, I did all this in the past, and talked to our Honda technical rep about it last year.The definitions of linked and combined are not clear to me. On the 2012 and 2013, it was obvious what was going on, since the plumbing and hardware were right there to see.
What would be interesting is to raise one wheel on a 2014-2019 ABS model, spin the wheel, and operate the brake for the other wheel to see if it has any effect on the spinning wheel. Are they linked in any way? Are they linked only if ABS is activated? Did the brake design change in 2014? In 2016?
Yes, we did this with a 2018 DCT when I worked at the dealership. The brakes aren't linked front to rear, rear to front, or at all. This is an old topic rehashed. Who knows why Honda doesn't change the website. They did change it from linked to "2 Channel ABS" with DCT models at some point. I didn't bother to look it up today, I did all this in the past, and talked to our Honda technical rep about it last year.
For several years about 10 years ago Honda did build an an electronic C-ABS system on the 600cc supersport and liter bikes. If the 700/750s had it there would be a two motor control units, one for each wheel, two wheel valve units and a dedicated electronic control unit for each wheel. The 700/750s have similar ABS one-box modulators as every other late model Honda with ABS and none of the associated black boxes of the C-ABS system.
Yes, Honda did this in certain MY 2009 production models and the necessary components of Electronic C-ABS are not included on NC700/750XD ABS models. Unless of course you find them in parts lists.Oops, it's clear now that my idea of the linked system always having a 3-pot front caliper fed via two brake hoses is old school and Honda has developed another method to do the same task using a 2-pot front caliper with single hose.
Are you still sticking to the theory that the NC does not have an ABS system that is linked in the least bit? I want facts lol. Wish there was more literature on the matter.Yes, Honda did this in certain MY 2009 production models and the necessary components of Electronic C-ABS are not included on NC700/750XD ABS models. Unless of course you find them in parts lists.