The DCT continues to impress!

[gordonisbell]

Had my mind set on the NC700x dct initially simply because of the technology and the Honda quality performance ( I've had two Honda Accords). My enthusiasm deflated somewhat when, for some reason, I understood the bike only ran in full auto mode. Then I read about Sport mode. I'm enthused again! That's all I need! Oh, it has full manual mode? Why would I ever need that?

I found out yesterday. Having only ridden this bike for about four weeks now, I've spent the entire time in auto or sport mode, primarily because I wanted to spend the vast majority of my time focusing on my riding skills. I've gotten fairly confidant enough to spend more time on the performance of the bike, so I did my fist ride yesterday in m/t.

I don't know why but it was the most enjoyable ride I've had. I don't know if it was because it was because it harkened me back to my younger riding days (I know, sans clutch) or just because I seemed to have total control of the engine and transmission. (I know, you don't actually have total control as it downshifts on its own when slowing down)

In summary, you can really ride this bike based on your mood or simply what you think is best for you and the bike? Anyone else feel that way ?

 

[Agent]

I don't have the DCT, but I'm glad to see that you're enjoying yours. My mood improves greatly every time I ride. The NC is like a faithful dog. You want to run and play? She'll run and play with you. You want to go slow and easy? She'll do that too. She's just always happy when you want to go for a ride.

 

[Deckyon]

Absolutely 100%. I have yet to use Manual mode on purpose (have hit the button on accident a couple times). Around the city I keep it in Drive, but when out on a ride on the smaller, twistier roads, it stays in Sport. If it is a larger highway (I dont ride interstates unless I have to) I keep it in Drive mode.

I have a ball on this bike, even if it is just running to the store.

 

[DirtFlier]

I have a 2013 DCT model and it never felt quite right after making a turn in town.
And for reference, I used D all the time. Anyhow giving it throttle after rounding a corner would result in several downshifts then upshifts in a short distance. The system on its own will downshift to 5th but you almost have to stop get get it lower than that. I solved this by downshifting manually to 4th then 3rd before reaching the corner and now the acceleration away from the corner seems more normal.

 

[yearroundrider]

I enjoy this bike quite a bit. I'm about the exact opposite of you guys though. I ride in manual mode most times. I can quick shift to keep the revs down or open it up for more aggressive riding and don't have to worry about it feeling boggy going up hills. When it's wet out drive mode is nice to keep it chill. And sport is fun when you are carving it up and not wanting to think about shifting. I've been practicing my slow maneuvers while standing and am getting used to riding the rear brake with throttle control. It's nice to just move a finger to shift rather than shifting ones weight around on the pegs. After two years I can say I appreciate and enjoy this bike even more.


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[drdubb]

I took my DCT out to some sort yesterday and I ran into some deep sand. One thing I didn't have to worry with was what gear I was in.

 

[Deleted member 1183]

A friend of mine took out a 750 dct last week to test ride it for the local motorcycle mag. He did not like it. The transmission really bugged him, firstly because it changed up too quickly and secondly because there was virtually no engine braking on downshifts. It will be getting a bad write up from him. He even went as far as to say that the variable pulley belt transmission of the larger scooters is better. I have never ridden a DCT so I cannot comment.

Discuss........

 

[Deckyon]

A friend of mine took out a 750 dct last week to test ride it for the local motorcycle mag. He did not like it. The transmission really bugged him, firstly because it changed up too quickly and secondly because there was virtually no engine braking on downshifts. It will be getting a bad write up from him. He even went as far as to say that the variable pulley belt transmission of the larger scooters is better. I have never ridden a DCT so I cannot comment.

Discuss........

What were his expectations?

 

[Deleted member 1183]

What were his expectations?

Not sure. I just listened to his rant. I supposed he at least expected that the transmission would function better than the variable belt version on the Scooter ?

 

[Deckyon]

Well, it does for me.

 

[drdubb]

I get engine breaking and when I want to be sporty and twist it...the change goods off or I can go,manual. Did he really ride the motorcycle?

 

[Therapy]

Had my mind set on the NC700x dct initially simply because of the technology and the Honda quality performance ( I've had two Honda Accords). My enthusiasm deflated somewhat when, for some reason, I understood the bike only ran in full auto mode. Then I read about Sport mode. I'm enthused again! That's all I need! Oh, it has full manual mode? Why would I ever need that?

I found out yesterday. Having only ridden this bike for about four weeks now, I've spent the entire time in auto or sport mode, primarily because I wanted to spend the vast majority of my time focusing on my riding skills. I've gotten fairly confidant enough to spend more time on the performance of the bike, so I did my fist ride yesterday in m/t.

I don't know why but it was the most enjoyable ride I've had. I don't know if it was because it was because it harkened me back to my younger riding days (I know, sans clutch) or just because I seemed to have total control of the engine and transmission. (I know, you don't actually have total control as it downshifts on its own when slowing down)

In summary, you can really ride this bike based on your mood or simply what you think is best for you and the bike? Anyone else feel that way ?

Uh, yea. And I only have 400 miles on mine so far.

I have a 2013 DCT model and it never felt quite right after making a turn in town.
And for reference, I used D all the time. Anyhow giving it throttle after rounding a corner would result in several downshifts then upshifts in a short distance. The system on its own will downshift to 5th but you almost have to stop get get it lower than that. I solved this by downshifting manually to 4th then 3rd before reaching the corner and now the acceleration away from the corner seems more normal.

Using "S" will change a lot of that for you.

A friend of mine took out a 750 dct last week to test ride it for the local motorcycle mag. He did not like it. The transmission really bugged him, firstly because it changed up too quickly and secondly because there was virtually no engine braking on downshifts. It will be getting a bad write up from him. He even went as far as to say that the variable pulley belt transmission of the larger scooters is better. I have never ridden a DCT so I cannot comment.

Discuss........

So. One person does not like it. Pffftttt!

 

[kpinvt]

A friend of mine took out a 750 dct last week to test ride it for the local motorcycle mag. He did not like it. The transmission really bugged him, firstly because it changed up too quickly and secondly because there was virtually no engine braking on downshifts. It will be getting a bad write up from him. He even went as far as to say that the variable pulley belt transmission of the larger scooters is better. I have never ridden a DCT so I cannot comment.

Discuss........

I don't understand these comments I hear from people that there is no engine braking. I see lots of engine braking while I'm riding, when I want to. I don't get why motorcycle magazines have people write articles on bikes that they seem predisposed to not like. Until just the past couple of years the motorcycle press would do a write up of a new scooter with the writer saying things like, "I don't really like scooters. I haven't spent much time on them and what time I did spend riding one I hated every moment of the experience."????????

 

[mike884]

If you leave it in sport mode, there is plenty of engine braking. If you want more, switch to manual and downshift again. Drive mode has much less engine braking, but sometimes I want it that way as well. Its a nice setup.

 

[yearroundrider]

Well I came from a cvt scooter and I can say hands down that the NC's "tranny " is much better. For one, you can down shift and yes there is engine braking. For two, there are options on how you would like to shift. The test rider must have been scared to try manual mode. Lol!
It seems most motorcycle riders want an aggressive machine that can impress whomever and don't give credit to those of us that just want to ride.


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[yearroundrider]

If you want more, switch to manual and downshift again..

You don't have to switch to manual to temporarily downshift while in sport. It will change gears again shortly but if you need to downshift in a fast manor it will most likely be in the gear you need it to be in.


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[Therapy]

I my early years I did a lot of downshifting and it was part of being cool and thinking I was a better rider than I was.

Mostly it just burns off rear tires. Accelerating is not how rear tires are worn out. It is downshifting and skidding the rubber off.

I am over that.

I have noticed that in S mode there is enough downshift that the tire must be skidding some. As far as I can feel anyway.

 

[Konrad]

I LOVE MY DCT. 8,800 mile so far. I agree. Casually commuting to work = D mode. Before most turns or riding more aggressive = S mode and on rare occasion I flick her in manual just for fun.

Love this thing but I always have to explain to people it's not for everyone. But I believe it's the best commuter bike ever made.

 

[Bert]

I have found that in D it will downshift much earlier if you engage the brake very lightly (just to give the signal i want to brake to the computer)

 

[telecam]

+1 to all the above. DCT's smart.