OEM accessory installation instructions?

It'd be informative and interesting if the instruction sheets for installing the various genuine Honda accessories could be posted on this site with a sticky list pointing to those.

Surely some of the buyers of those items can scan 'em to PDF and offer to the forum. I don't think that'd violate a copyright, per se (but could be wrong).

As an interested but not-yet owner, I was glad to find (through Google) the Owner's Manual on this site .... apparently OK to post since the admin hasn't pulled it, but still not stickied (?)

BTW I fully understand and support not posting the Service Manual sold through Helm.

centex said:

It'd be informative and interesting if the instruction sheets for installing the various genuine Honda accessories could be posted on this site with a sticky list pointing to those.
Surely some of the buyers of those items can scan 'em to PDF and offer to the forum. I don't think that'd violate a copyright, per se (but could be wrong).
As an interested but not-yet owner, I was glad to find (through Google) the Owner's Manual on this site .... apparently OK to post since the admin hasn't pulled it, but still not stickied (?)
BTW I fully understand and support not posting the Service Manual sold through Helm.

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Here is wat I see at the bottom of every page of all my Honda installation sheets:



But I agree with you that could be very helpful ...

Ooops, so much for that idea.

Thanks, Frank!

Isn't it only a problem if you try to make money off of it? Same thing for the Honda logo and NC700x name that is on this site.

frozenpoet said:

Isn't it only a problem if you try to make money off of it?

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I don't think so. Copyrighted material cannot be distributed, period. You need to own the rights to do so.

I cannot copy a copyrighted service manual or a DVD to a friend just because I won't make money out of it.

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Well then, I'm a pirate anyway rrrrrrrr

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I would expect American Honda to give consideration to a request from this site's admin or owner to permit posting the accessory instruction manuals here. Honestly I don't see a legit reason they'd want that _not_ done, but that doesn't necessarily mean they'll agree to it.

I never have figured out why the accessory installation instructions aren't online for Honda bikes. If you have a Honda car, the online parts and accessory dealers typically post a link to the instructions on the same page as the accessory description.
FWIW the dealers have access to all the accessory instructions for our bikes. Whenever I have a question on how complicated an accessory installation would be, I just ask them to print out the instruction sheet for me. They've never refused to do so, but I do have a good relationship with them.
While its obviously not as convenient as having the instructions posted here, if you want to see the instructions, I'd suggest asking your dealer to print out a copy for you. The worst they can do is say no.

Bob

Spaceteach said:

I never have figured out why the accessory installation instructions aren't online for Honda bikes. If you have a Honda car, the online parts and accessory dealers typically post a link to the instructions on the same page as the accessory description.
FWIW the dealers have access to all the accessory instructions for our bikes. Whenever I have a question on how complicated an accessory installation would be, I just ask them to print out the instruction sheet for me. They've never refused to do so, but I do have a good relationship with them.
While its obviously not as convenient as having the instructions posted here, if you want to see the instructions, I'd suggest asking your dealer to print out a copy for you. The worst they can do is say no.

Bob

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I purchased the genuine accessory subharness and relay from my honda dealer. They came with no installation instructions and the dealer did not have them either. Can anyone tell me how to install these parts.

Derrica

The dealer won't have them on hand, but they should have access to an online Honda database where they are located. In my case both the sales and parts department personnel knew how to access it. You may want to talk to a different person at the dealership, but someone should be able to print them out for you.
If all else fails, ask the sales manager at your dealership for the Honda Customer Service telephone number and tell them why you want to call Honda. I would be willing to bet that they find someone who can give you a printout of the instructions.

Bob