Made the upgrade from 700X DCT -750X DCT - Here's what you need to know.

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So I finally got to pick up my new 2018 NC750X DCT. I bought it back on June 2 and had some accessories installed. It was brand new with just 1 mile on it. Dealers here were given some of Honda's hold-backs from 2018. They still have 2 manuals at the dealership.
It's so nice finally having a power port inside the frunk.

This thread is going to cover the differences I'm seeing between the 2 bikes.

First thing is it's noticeably more powerful. Not a lot, just enough to feel the difference. Changing lanes on the freeway, it stayed in top gear but picked up enough speed to not get run over by the crazies going 75+. I would have downshifted on the 700 for that kind of burst of speed.

The ride height is higher on the new bike. Not sure if this is a difference in the suspension settings, or if the old bike's suspension was sagging. The ride feel is very similar, maybe a little smoother on the 750.

I was able to transplant my Honda rear carrier rack from my 700 to the 750. It's pretty easy, though one of the holes didn't line up well. Had to force things to get the bolts in. The new racks on my 750 transplanted easily to the old 700.

The windscreen on the 750 is the exact same size as on my 2016 700. Ridding home I attached one of the e-Bay clip-ons, and was pleasantly surprised at how well it kept the turbulence off my helmet. I did have earplugs in, so can't comment on the noise, which was awful on the 700 with just the stock windscreen. I transferred my Puig touring screen to the new 750. Any 2016+ 700 windscreen will fit a 2018 750 with the stock holes.

I had the dealer install the Honda handguards, but it's too warm to tell if they'll keep my hands warmer. They had to remove the stock weighted bar ends, and I wonder if that's why there is a bit of buzziness to the feel at about 73 mph. It's about the same as with my 700. They don't contact the stock nor the Puig windscreens at full lock.

My 3 year old Sargent seat easily transplanted from my 700 to the 750. It doesn't line up against the frunk completely flush, exactly as how it did on my 700, but that means it doesn't slope down as much as the stock seat.

The frunk on the new bike doesn't shut easily. I wonder if that's intentional so we don't accidentally lock our keys in there. But I really have to force it to get it to lock closed. If the lid falls down it's not enough to lock it, I have to push down on it.

Will report any other differences.
 

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I agree with almost all your points.

My wife rides a '16 NC700x and I ride an '18 NC750x.

Your point on the '18 Frunk not closing easily is not my experience. Both of our Frunks seem to be identical, including in the level of force required to close them. I'd guess that something is misaligned on your '18 Frunk if it is not latching without a very solid push.

As for the engine/performance, yes you are spot on regarding the differences. The '18's 750 is no speedster, but there is a noticeable bit of power when it's wanted. Not a lot, but noticeable.


One bit of note, often lost on people comparing bikes, is that starting in 2016 the DCT got an upgrade to the newest generation of DCT. Honestly I'm not sure if its a software or a hardware upgrade, but the 2016-thru-2020 DCT is more responsive than the 2012-2015 DCT. So as long as we are comparing the '16 NC700x to the '18 & newer NC750x, we might as well add in the mention of the PRE-2016 DCT versus the newer 2016-2020 DCT.
 

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I've been curious about the differences, thanks for the notes fellas. Is there a difference in fuel efficiency? I recall Honda stated my '17 to have 62mpg, which I have only gotten when riding with excessive spirit. I seem to remember that the 750X got it's rating bumped up to 67 or 68mpg

What have you guys noticed?
 

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I’ve honestly never compared them. We ride together when we can, and on trips; we filled up at the same time, I couldn’t tell you if one needed 1/10th of a gallon more/less than the other.

I ride twice as much as she does and really never bothered to run any fuel efficiency records on either bike.
 

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I hurt my back, probably from twisting off an impossibly tight bolt with a tiny allen key wrench, so haven't ridden enough, nor filled up yet. But the display shows about the same mpg as I was getting on my 700, around 60 mpg average.
 

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I've been curious about the differences, thanks for the notes fellas. Is there a difference in fuel efficiency? I recall Honda stated my '17 to have 62mpg, which I have only gotten when riding with excessive spirit. I seem to remember that the 750X got it's rating bumped up to 67 or 68mpg

What have you guys noticed?


I believe there is little difference in fuel efficiency, if at all.

On the performance I found only a slight increase in power on the 750. However back to back I felt that the 700 had a slightly sharper throttle response. In short in my experience there was little between them.
 
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notice your on the UK forum Griff.
I was on there till I got kicked off.
the guy Ted who runs it at the time didn't own a NC.
he set that up to supplement his income pension.
a few lads left that forum when I was on it for that reason and I shortly followed not willingly.lol
I was selly my racks for the NC and some lads where wanting.
he promptly forbid it but wanted a money for the privilege so I paid him .
got the money but still wouldn't let me sell.
ask for my money back but got no reply but kicked off.
just be careful about being a supporter your just lining the old lawyers pockets.
 

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...and yet I have found the UK Forum incredibly helpful and have benefited from being a member of it. 2 sides to every story. :)
 

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I've been riding a bit more. Took a ride through the hills in Malibu yesterday with the DCT in S1 most of the time. No issues.

I Was wondering if the new bike really was heavier than the old 700. I was thinking about the difference in weight the other day as I was leaving my doctor's office, and so forgot to remove the disklock on the front wheel!
My bike's handguards make putting the reminder cable around the throttle impossible, so I had stupidly slipped the end around the brake handle, and my pre-occupied mind didn't notice it. I put the bike in D, started to ride off and the disklock swung around, stopped the bike suddenly and I tipped over to the left.
I knew instantly what I'd done, so hit the kill switch and lifted the bike back up. I was surprised I could do it, with a still-sore back, but I guess 505 pounds is not as heavy as I'd thought! I think it's the bike's lower center of gravity.
To my surprise there was no damage, other than some light scrapes on the left handguard. My rear carrier might have hit on the back, preventing the bike from making contact.

So, important lesson - swing the reminder cable over the throttle before slipping it onto the brake handle!

I also "attached" an Evotech radiator cover I got at Revzilla. I use quotes because it had 2 parts break off as I tried to attach it to the radiator. They weren't a permanent part of the cover, looked like they were just glued in place. I wanted the cover tight, and when I tightened the hex bolts the bases popped right off. I like the look of it, and it was supposed to be a very easy install, but it's so cheaply made I may have to return it and order one from elsewhere. Will see if the local hardware store has a solution, as covers are hard to find in the US right now.20200624_134948.jpg20200624_134938.jpg
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Tightening those tiny screws won't make the radiator guard fit any tighter; they just secure the two end clamps to the body of the guard. It's the clamps, fitting around the back of the radiator,, with the foam tape for cushioning, that hold the guard on tightly. Screws that small should be just snugged up, and threadlocker is a must. I didn't look closely at the nuts, but if they're press-on, try pressing them back on.

I installed the Evotech guard last week, as it happens. It's mounted very securely, has excellent air flow and looks good. Aluminum too, so it's light.
 

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I'm a little confused about the weight difference you are talking about. I'm assuming you had the DCT version in 2016 and you currently have the DCT transmission on your 2018. Sitting in my garage, except for the modifications I made to the 2 bikes, my wife's 2016 NC700x is virtually identical to my 2018 NC750x. For '18 I have the added traction control and the LED lights, and obviously the engine is bored out a bit. But I don't see or feel a 30# difference unless you are comparing the MANUAL vs the DCT. Both of our bikes are DCT.

For 2016* the NC700x manual transmission model weighed 474 pounds. The 2016 NC700x DCT is listed at 505 pounds.

For 2018* the NC750x manual version is listed at 478 pounds with the DCT version listed at 500#.

Per the Honda Powersports website the 2019 and the 2020 the NC750x manual transmission weight is 479 pounds and 505# is the weight for the DCT with ABS version

* per the Hondaprokevin.com website
 

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I'm a little confused about the weight difference you are talking about. I'm assuming you had the DCT version in 2016 and you currently have the DCT transmission on your 2018. Sitting in my garage, except for the modifications I made to the 2 bikes, my wife's 2016 NC700x is virtually identical to my 2018 NC750x. For '18 I have the added traction control and the LED lights, and obviously the engine is bored out a bit. But I don't see or feel a 30# difference unless you are comparing the MANUAL vs the DCT. Both of our bikes are DCT.

For 2016* the NC700x manual transmission model weighed 474 pounds. The 2016 NC700x DCT is listed at 505 pounds.

For 2018* the NC750x manual version is listed at 478 pounds with the DCT version listed at 500#.

Per the Honda Powersports website the 2019 and the 2020 the NC750x manual transmission weight is 479 pounds and 505# is the weight for the DCT with ABS version

* per the Hondaprokevin.com website
Yes, you're right. I'd had the 474 lbs written down on a note posted on my desk's wall for years, but after double checking this bike has always been 505 lbs. Now I' really wondering why the difference in feel.
I edited my previous post.
 

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re honda hand guards, they should have replaced the stock weights with new ones that have a machined bit to accomodate the the fitting of the guards. If anything the new ones may be a bit heavier than stock. My bars dont vibrate differently than before the hand guards. Dealer would have handed you your old ones and the old screws, but new ones were added.
 

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The 2018 owners manual ID's headlights and position lights in the assembly.
Can you pinpoint where and how many LEDs at each of these locations?
My C125A Cub have 10 bulbs arranged at 3 locations.
 

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I'm wondering about the statement that was made about power port in frunk. I have a 2018 and I know of no power port in the frunk, can you clarify on that?
Thanks, Jim
I don't have that on my '18 either. Completely missed the reference to it in the original post.
 

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I'm wondering about the statement that was made about power port in frunk. I have a 2018 and I know of no power port in the frunk, can you clarify on that?
Thanks, Jim
In the first post, preceding the reference to the power port, was the mention of "and had some accessories installed".
 
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