Brake and plate light out

[fleetingyouth]

Hi all,

I realized late last night my brake light, running light, and plate light are out. I have the custom fiberglass tail delete that puts the tail light up into the tail so its a pain to get at the brake light. will have to pull the whole tail apart.

Before I pull it apart what are the chances its not a bad bulb? Is it common for both fillaments to fail or is that a sign that maybe its a bad connection or fuse?

Also does someone know the bulb numer to replace it?

Thanks all.

 

[potter0o]

Also does someone know the bulb numer to replace it?

Thanks all.

According to the service manual 12V - 21/5W

 

[TacomaJD]

Sounds like a bad connection (or two) to me. Did you have to splice into the factory harness when installing the new lighting, or was it plug and play?

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[fleetingyouth]

Potter thanks I found it on the forum looks like it is a 1157 bulb.

Tacoma there is no new lighting just stock. The bulb is a dual filiments so running light and brake light are the same bulb. Also the running light doubles as the plate light. So this doesnt rule out a bad connection but it is the stock setup.

 

[TacomaJD]

Oh, figured the tail tidy was an aftermarket light installed in tail section. Got any pics of it? I'm interested to see what it looks like.



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[fleetingyouth]

Yeah you see it in the images on the first post here.

 

[76Hawke]

I don't see any images though...

 

[TacomaJD]

I don't see any images though...

Click the link and go to first post..

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[Junkie]

I've found that when one filament fails it often wiggles around, ends up touching the other filament, and the other fails in short order

 

[rippin209]

I'd recommend switching to an LED.

I replaced my tail light with an LED bulb years ago when I installed an LED headlight, I changed the headlight to a different model (switched to one without a fan) but the tail light is the exact same, so far non of my LED lights have died despite many, many hours of use

 

[fleetingyouth]

Thanks Junkie. thats what I'm hoping. Picked up a bulb today going to pull the tail apart and try it first. Just going to be a pain as its parked on the sidewalk at the place I'm at right now.

Rippin what headlight did you go with? Ive been wanting to do that next. I think I'm going to order an LED tail light online didnt like the style they had at the store. Will go with a filiment for now then drop the LED in in the spring.

 

[TacomaJD]

You mentioned the plate light being out too, does the tail light bulb also act as the plate light or is it a separate bulb? This is why I suspected bad wiring connections as the culprit, if more than one bulb went out at once.

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[rippin209]

Tail light/ruining light, the brake light and the license plate light are all the same single bulb (dual filament)

 

[670cc]

In the past, I messed around with LED replacement “bulbs” for tail lights on a Ninja 250. What I found back then was that if the tail light doubles as the license light, you’ll need a “white” LED. However, at least back then, white LEDs had very little red spectrum component in the white light. So the white license light looked fine but the tail/brake lights looked pink behind the red lens. I wonder if current day white LED replacements have adequate red light in them, or if they’ll still look pink through a red lens.

 

[rippin209]

In the past, I messed around with LED replacement “bulbs” for tail lights on a Ninja 250. What I found back then was that if the tail light doubles as the license light, you’ll need a “white” LED. However, at least back then, white LEDs had very little red spectrum component in the white light. So the white license light looked fine but the tail/brake lights looked pink behind the red lens. I wonder if current day white LED replacements have adequate red light in them, or if they’ll still look pink through a red lens.

I was worried about that so I used a red light, the tail light is so close to the license plate it doesn't look out of place,

 

[fleetingyouth]

670cc they make a lot of dual function LED lghts now to replace dual filament bulbs. So they are red LEDs with white LEDS for runing lights.