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Question New Tires

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Maybe its just me. Bought a 21 NC750X last year and managed to wear out the stock tires. I installed a set of Michelin Road 6 tires and am liking them .......a lot.
My question to you is when I enter a curve the bike "seems" to lay over quicker then the old tires. Very responsive. Again possibly its just the new tires and the original set acted the same when they were new.
After forty years of being off two motorized wheels its great to be back. Feel that I bought the "Right" bike the first time.
 
Maybe its just me. Bought a 21 NC750X last year and managed to wear out the stock tires. I installed a set of Michelin Road 6 tires and am liking them .......a lot.
My question to you is when I enter a curve the bike "seems" to lay over quicker then the old tires. Very responsive. Again possibly its just the new tires and the original set acted the same when they were new.
After forty years of being off two motorized wheels its great to be back. Feel that I bought the "Right" bike the first time.
I think anytime you replace worn tires with new ones, the handling will feel significantly different. Sounds normal. However, I have never tried a Road 6.
 
Gratz for getting back on two wheels! The Road 6s are a great road tire, I think the stock on the ‘21s are Dunlop somethings which I remember was also pretty much a road tire, even though they try to categorize the NC as a dual sport :rolleyes:. Anyways, your next set of tires will feel the same, more responsive and a little “rounder” mix that with the lower center of gravity on the newer NCs and you’ll get that feeling. Completely normal, keep hitting those twisties to scrub in the new set properly and you’ll soon forget there’s even a difference.
 
My 2021 came with Metzler Tourance Nexts. They went 7130 miles. Then I tried Michelin R5s. They went 8579 miles. Then I tried Pirelli Angel GTs and they went 7696 miles. I recently put on Shinko Raven 09's. Only have about 700 miles on them. All have been very good tires. Some cost more, and some lasted longer. When figured per mile the Metzler cost .025 per mile. The Michelin and Pirelli .028 per mile. If the Shinko goes 7500 miles it will compute to .16 per mile. I would run any of them again handling wise.
 
New tires of any brand will bring back the neutral steering of any bike. That is why all the MFGs have always said replace in pairs only. I did install a 160/70 Bridgestone T30 EVO once and the bike rolled over so easy compared to a 160/60 that you felt that there was no end of lean angle. Being a larger tire, taller and a higher weight class gearing was changed MPGs went up and tire wear went down. The bike did not have that planted feeling coming out of corners it was more like a "Mike Hailwood" high line exit.
 
I am going ton apologize up front here because I don’t want to be that guy….but here goes…..
I need new tires, I ride mainly rural paved roads & some highways, rarely ever interstate. I do want to do some gravel roads & dirt roads here & there, but not much off-road.
I have read all the tire posts in the site & I was thinking of getting the Shinko 705’s, but have heard some people on here love them & others that say they don’t corner well at all.
Now I am so confused… please give me your opinions of what you like & don’t like.
I need tires!
o_O
 
If you‘re a casual rider, not a boy racer, I’d recommend Shinko 009 Ravens. They are pure street tires, but street tires do fine on packed gravel, packed dirt. If you were considering loose gravel, or dirt roads with big rocks in them, then go with the Shinko 705s. I have ran 705s myself and the only notable odd thing about them was they got all squirrelly on paved road tar snakes.

I use my NC only for street now, while I have a dual sport motorcycle with knobbies for off road. I think the low budget NC suspension will give you grief off road before the tires will be a big factor.
 
If you‘re a casual rider, not a boy racer, I’d recommend Shinko 009 Ravens. They are pure street tires, but street tires do fine on packed gravel, packed dirt.

. I think the low budget NC suspension will give you grief off road before the tires will be a big factor.
I agree with this. I have just under 2,000 miles on my Shinko 009 Ravens now and have been surprised at their competence on the paved road. I am throwing them into corners as hard as I did the" premium" tires I have been running in the past, with the same confidence and results. I don't do any off roading, but in years past have ridden in packed gravel and dry packed dirt without drama when all we had were "street" tires. Loose gravel still gives me the heebie jeebies and I avoid it at all costs, and of course wet mud...just NO!
 
I tend to agree with Greg (670cc) view: " I think the low budget NC suspension will give you grief off road before the tires will be a big factor."

I've run Michelin Road and now Pirelli Scorpion Trail II's (which is supposed to be a bit more off-road oriented). Have not been able to determine that either was "better" on the packed dirt/gravel service roads I occasionally ride. I'm on asphalt 90+% of the time so I'm much more focused on wet grip for my tires. Both seemed to do just fine for the "off road" I do. I do love the Michelins and likely will put Michelin Road 6 on when the current Pirelli's wear out.

Riding is a fun hobby for me, not a commuting task, so I'm not as budget conscious about tires (i think my riding, all in, is still way cheaper than golf) -- more focused on performance, especially wet road grip.
 
I find that as long as the unpaved roads I take are packed and reasonably groomed or maintained a 100% street tire does as well as I need be. Loose deep sand is a no-go and small rock deep gravel is much like riding on ball bearings or deep sand. I've done it when necessary but I avoid it if at all possible. This type of riding is probably less than 1% of my annual riding.

I am a year round all weather rider in a climate that gets a fair amount of rain. I'm on pavement 99% of the time and dry and wet traction with predictable handling are my top priorities. After some less than ideal experiences with the Michelin Pilot Road series (PR 2 and PR 3) I swore about 9 or 10 years ago I'd never buy another Michelin Pilot Road. They wore unevenly and the mileage though better than the Bridgestones (BT023,T30, T30 Evo, T31) by approximately 20%, wasn't enough to offset the higher cost per mile and squishy handling. The PR3 required two or three mid turn corrections in medium to high speed corners on both my NC700X and ST1300. The only time I really liked them was on wet pavement when the lean angles were moderate. However I did buy a used bike three years ago that was on Road 5s and the experience with them brought me back to the brand. The Road series are the best handling and longest wearing tires I've ever ridden on. Michelin does at least two unique things with the Road series. One is the soft section of the dual compound tread, the outside edges, has an underlying foundation of the hard center section compound that stabilizes the outside edge tire at higher lean angles while providing the better grip of the soft compound tread face. In the wet lean angles are usually less aggressive so the siping (grooves) does not extend out to the edge of the thread,leaving the outside edges with no siping. On dry pavement the lean angle can be more aggressive and the dry tire on the edge acts like an DOT race tire that has no tread grooves whatsoever. In the wet no street rider will ever lean the last 35% of the tread face onto the pavement but in the dry the tire offers objectively more traction when leaned onto the outer edges. The other is the siping that channels rain or standing water to the outside edge of the tire is wider down deep in the groove so that as the tire wears over time it retains the same ability to pump water as a brand new tire. The volume of the sipingchannels doesn't change with wear. Tire threads will by nature extremely subjective due to rider experience and demands. A casual or novice rider may not need the extra traction in normal circumstances but I'd not want to give it up for the time one would need all of the margin of safety afforded by the tires.
 
If you‘re a casual rider, not a boy racer, I’d recommend Shinko 009 Ravens. They are pure street tires, but street tires do fine on packed gravel, packed dirt. If you were considering loose gravel, or dirt roads with big rocks in them, then go with the Shinko 705s. I have ran 705s myself and the only notable odd thing about them was they got all squirrelly on paved road tar snakes.

I use my NC only for street now, while I have a dual sport motorcycle with knobbies for off road. I think the low budget NC suspension will give you grief off road before the tires will be a big factor.
I have the Shinko Ravens, have a 300 yard sand/grass driveway and live on a dirt/sand/gravel road. The Ravens do fine, even when wet but I am not a speed demon, never have lost traction.
 
I recently changed the tires on my 2021 NC750x DCT over to Metzeler (Pirelli) Karoo Street tires (Front: 120/70ZR-17 and Rear: 170/60ZR-17). I similarly was looking for a reliable tire for mostly street riding with good rain traction. But I also like running on gravel, country roads for long stretches. So I needed something with a bit more control and grip. This is maybe an 70/20 or 80/20 tire? I just got back from a trip through Kansas, Missouri and Arkansas with a combo of street, highway and some sketchy surface riding. They did great.
 
For Luke:
I will also say Ravens for mostly street. I've used them on a bunch of bikes and have clocked a few hundred miles, if not more, of sandy Florida off-road trails. They do fine if you have the skill and they're fairly stout to get through gravel, etc. They'll do 140mph (not on this bike) and last forever on the pavement. I got over 12kmi on my last rear and have about 15kmi on the front now with minimal wear.

If you like the look of the 705's and think you'll do more off road, I'm sure they are also good. I ran the 804/805 combo on my ADV bike and they were great, even on road. They were a little bumpy at slow speeds because of the blocks but they were surprisingly good in the corners on and off road. I think Shinko makes some really good tires.
 
I know I am a little odd, but....
My wife and I live 100 miles on nice pavement from our beach property, however our last half mile to mile is at best well drained mud to sometimes water covered mud. Our choice is TKC80 front tires. On my rear I have MotoZ Tractionator GPS and on my wife's NC750X she will have Continental TKC70 Rocks next week. These tires are actually quite decent on the paved road, but we need them in our muddy road.
Here is what we sometimes encounter when we arrive:
 
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I know I am a little odd, but....
My wife and I live 100 miles on nice pavement from our beach property, however our last half mile to mile is at best well drained mud to sometimes water covered mud. Our choice is TKC80 front tires. On my rear I have MotoZ Tractionator GPS and on my wife's NC750X she will have Continental TKC70 Rocks next week. These tires are actually quite decent on the paved road, but we need them in our muddy road.
Here is what we sometimes encounter when we arrive:
Wow, every time you want to go for a spin, you have to ride the gauntlet?:oops:
 
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