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TNHoosier and Saldog, I feel your pain, literally. I am trying to take progressively longer rides on my 2021 NCxd but somewhere about 170 miles into the trip the seat becomes uncomfortable. I am not sure whether it is the cumulative effects of riding in the warm weather or I have to build up some muscles to "pad my seat" to be comfortable on the seat (if you get my meaning). So I would like to ask those individuals who talk about the long rides that they take - how do you do it?
I have no problems with long rides on a good seat. I usually have to replace the stock seat to get something comfortable. I usually stop every 1.5 - 2 hours just to get blood flowing again. I also stand when at a stop light to take advantage of the stop.

My issue with the NC seat is once the pain starts, it doesn't go away with my short breaks. It seems to be there the instant I get back on the bike. If Saldog is able to confirm the fit of the Sargent seat, I will be ordering one ASAP.

I have one of these arriving today to tide me over until I can get a better seat.

 
TNHoosier and Saldog, I feel your pain, literally. I am trying to take progressively longer rides on my 2021 NCxd but somewhere about 170 miles into the trip the seat becomes uncomfortable. I am not sure whether it is the cumulative effects of riding in the warm weather or I have to build up some muscles to "pad my seat" to be comfortable on the seat (if you get my meaning). So I would like to ask those individuals who talk about the long rides that they take - how do you do it?
I'm just wrapping up a 21 day ride, 6,300 miles on my NC. I tried lots of seats. Finally, on my 7th seat, which I custom modified based on the knowledge gained from trying the first 6, I am able to ride very long trips. Clothing choices also play a big role in butt comfort.
 
I'm just wrapping up a 21 day ride, 6,300 miles on my NC. I tried lots of seats. Finally, on my 7th seat, which I custom modified based on the knowledge gained from trying the first 6, I am able to ride very long trips. Clothing choices also play a big role in butt comfort.
I made a custom seat for my FZ6. It was comfortable but it did not look very good.
 
I have no problems with long rides on a good seat. I usually have to replace the stock seat to get something comfortable. I usually stop every 1.5 - 2 hours just to get blood flowing again. I also stand when at a stop light to take advantage of the stop.

My issue with the NC seat is once the pain starts, it doesn't go away with my short breaks. It seems to be there the instant I get back on the bike. If Saldog is able to confirm the fit of the Sargent seat, I will be ordering one ASAP.

I have one of these arriving today to tide me over until I can get a better seat.

TNHoosier and Saldog, what made you decide on a Sargeant seat among those available?
 
TNHoosier and Saldog, what made you decide on a Sargeant seat among those available?
There are not that many aftermarket seats available for the 2021 other than a custom build. I have used Sargent seats in the past with good results. I am also considering a Seat Concepts solution.

I emailed Corbin to verify their's would fit a '21 NC but they could not confirm it would. I also emailed Sargent and they would not confirm it would fit a '21 either. It seems other forum members have received different responses from Sargent saying it would fit a '21. Saldog is taking the chance and has ordered one.

I just sold the RDL front seat from my FJR and the shipping was ridiculous. I do not want to add the cost of shipping both ways to the already high cost of a custom seat unless there is no viable alternative.
 
There are not that many aftermarket seats available for the 2021 other than a custom build. I have used Sargent seats in the past with good results. I am also considering a Seat Concepts solution.

I emailed Corbin to verify their's would fit a '21 NC but they could not confirm it would. I also emailed Sargent and they would not confirm it would fit a '21 either. It seems other forum members have received different responses from Sargent saying it would fit a '21. Saldog is taking the chance and has ordered one.

I just sold the RDL front seat from my FJR and the shipping was ridiculous. I do not want to add the cost of shipping both ways to the already high cost of a custom seat unless there is no viable alternative.
I understand your rationale. Did you happen to look at Laam seats?
 
TNHoosier and Saldog, what made you decide on a Sargeant seat among those available?
In my case, just lucky I guess. Before I was introduced into the world of long distance riding I was already riding 300-500 mile day rides on a stock ST1300 seat. With a break every 2 or 3 hours I was able to ride 10-12 hour days from as soon as I re-entered riding in 2005 after a 20 year hiatus. I was riding 2 - 4 times a month for a half to full day. It was my wrists and forearms that bothered me more than the butt, legs, or knees. I made a rubber exercise ball handy and did 20-30 reps three times a day with both hands in order to deal with the forearm pain. Working this way strengthened those muscles and the pain went away though my right one does ache sometimes late in a ride.

Sargent is located about 5 miles from my house and at the suggestion of a riding buddy I took advantage of their demo program and borrowed a ST1300 seat from Sargent for a day. I came back and bought a production model seat. I proceeded to put 170,000 miles on that seat with no degradation of support or appearance. Later I rode the 2012 NC700X for 25,000 on the stock seat with Showkey mod. It did fine for me and I did two or three 1000+ mile days on the stock NC seat before buying a Sargent. I also had a Corbin for 6 years on a BMW and liked the similar firm construction. If the story ended there I probably would be of the firm opinion that I do best on firm flat seats

My bottom is thin and spare but apparently not that discriminating when it comes to seats. Several years ago I bought a Goldwing and it came with a Russell Day Long seat which tend to be softer than Sargent or Corbin seats though no less supportive. The same story is repeated for the RDL. It's an all day comfortable seat for me but if it was not on the bike I'd likely have bought a Sargent if the stock seat required replacing to ride long distances.
 
In my case, just lucky I guess. Before I was introduced into the world of long distance riding I was already riding 300-500 mile day rides on a stock ST1300 seat. With a break every 2 or 3 hours I was able to ride 10-12 hour days from as soon as I re-entered riding in 2005 after a 20 year hiatus. I was riding 2 - 4 times a month for a half to full day. It was my wrists and forearms that bothered me more than the butt, legs, or knees. I made a rubber exercise ball handy and did 20-30 reps three times a day with both hands in order to deal with the forearm pain. Working this way strengthened those muscles and the pain went away though my right one does ache sometimes late in a ride.

Sargent is located about 5 miles from my house and at the suggestion of a riding buddy I took advantage of their demo program and borrowed a ST1300 seat from Sargent for a day. I came back and bought a production model seat. I proceeded to put 170,000 miles on that seat with no degradation of support or appearance. Later I rode the 2012 NC700X for 25,000 on the stock seat with Showkey mod. It did fine for me and I did two or three 1000+ mile days on the stock NC seat before buying a Sargent. I also had a Corbin for 6 years on a BMW and liked the similar firm construction. If the story ended there I probably would be of the firm opinion that I do best on firm flat seats

My bottom is thin and spare but apparently not that discriminating when it comes to seats. Several years ago I bought a Goldwing and it came with a Russell Day Long seat which tend to be softer than Sargent or Corbin seats though no less supportive. The same story is repeated for the RDL. It's an all day comfortable seat for me but if it was not on the bike I'd likely have bought a Sargent if the stock seat required replacing to ride long distances.
dduelin. thanks for your posting and information. I'll have to check their website to see if they still have loaner programs. It would be very helpful to actually "test out" a seat to get a sense of how "my seat" and the manufacturer's seat would get along before buying anything.
 
I tried a Sargent when it first came out for the NC, but it didn’t work out for me. The good news is they took it right back and gave me a refund. So if Sargent still has that satisfaction guarantee, you’ve got nothing to lose.
 
I tried a Sargent when it first came out for the NC, but it didn’t work out for me. The good news is they took it right back and gave me a refund. So if Sargent still has that satisfaction guarantee, you’ve got nothing to lose.
I just want to add to the many comments shared by members on the Sargent seat. Based upon the information shared I, like many of you, emailed Sargent and on September 8, 2021 received the following in response "We have a driver’s seat for the NC750x. We also sell a matching passenger seat cover if needed. We offer a full 30 day trial period with the purchase of our seats, so you will get a month to ride the seat and if it does not work for you for any reason it can be sent back for a refund."
I am assuming since my question(s) specified the 2021 Honda NC750xd that the reply refers to that model.
 
I just want to add to the many comments shared by members on the Sargent seat. Based upon the information shared I, like many of you, emailed Sargent and on September 8, 2021 received the following in response "We have a driver’s seat for the NC750x. We also sell a matching passenger seat cover if needed. We offer a full 30 day trial period with the purchase of our seats, so you will get a month to ride the seat and if it does not work for you for any reason it can be sent back for a refund."
I am assuming since my question(s) specified the 2021 Honda NC750xd that the reply refers to that model.
Additional information: "While we do not make a passenger seat for the NC, we do have a custom shop, so you could always send us the passenger seat for foam and cover customization." This was in regard to my question regarding a passenger seat cover. Received today September 9, 2021
 
I disagree on an important point. Large tall and full-width windshields fight the wind and force it to the sides and over the top edge which creates a low pressure area behind the windshield. Air spilling off the sides and top and rushing back into the low pressure area behind the shield is very noisy and turbulent. A shield that creates smooth flow across the front and back of the shield allows the split air streams in front of and behind the shield to reattach at the top edge for a very quiet deflection of air over the rider's helmet. If smooth laminar flow can be created the windshield doesn't have to be very big. This is how Madstad makes their systems for the earlier NCs and many other bikes.

The Madstad for the NC700/750 isn't a barn door or even large but due to the slot effect dramatically reduces sound and turbulence. I had the second generation Madstad on my 2015 and my 2013 has a first generation Madstad. Between the two the second gen is quieter but both work very well.

Madstad is looking for a 2021 owner in Central Florida willing to spend a couple hours at their factory in Brooksville so they can prototype a system that fits the new bike.
I ordered the madstad on recommendations from the forum here…my own err I guess. Doesn’t fit the 2021z. Hoping they will ship me the correct brackets when they have them!
 
Duh, me. I was hoping the throttle worked on the same mechanical principle and the electrical
pickup was elsewhere.
Crap, there is a potentiometer on the end of the throttle ... G2 Throttle Tamer will not work.
Went to backup plan, using a go-cruise type lock to place drag on the throttle. Works fine,
it is located between the housing and the Oxford grip. Its directly on the throttle.

Honda engineer-programmers need to ride the bike. About a half dozen lines of code could fix
the twitchy throttle by looking at rpm and reduce gas/air at low rpms.
 
I have a 2021 DCT and my throttle doesn't seem twitchy at all, feels very well connected between throttle input and motor response, but I am used to riding FI bikes, which throttle differently than carb bikes.
 
Duh, me. I was hoping the throttle worked on the same mechanical principle and the electrical
pickup was elsewhere.
Crap, there is a potentiometer on the end of the throttle ... G2 Throttle Tamer will not work.
Went to backup plan, using a go-cruise type lock to place drag on the throttle. Works fine,
it is located between the housing and the Oxford grip. Its directly on the throttle.

Honda engineer-programmers need to ride the bike. About a half dozen lines of code could fix
the twitchy throttle by looking at rpm and reduce gas/air at low rpms.
I'm not the most accomplished rider in the world. That said, the TBW on my VFR took some getting used to and required me to be very cognizant of my throttle control. Different bike, I know. Not sure how the NC is managing the throttle. Vfr had a cable to retain as much of a legacy feel as possible. Removing all throttle cable slack and then performing a soft ecu reset really did make a lot of difference. Much less snatchy. Not sure if the 21 NC has that same configuration...cable to TBW actuator.
 
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I am an old dog ... er fart, hard to learn new things. Switching between bikes confuses
my body-brain-motor programs. Have 800 miles, will talk with dealer at break-in service.
 
I am an old dog ... er fart, hard to learn new things. Switching between bikes confuses
my body-brain-motor programs. Have 800 miles, will talk with dealer at break-in service.
We are fearfully and wonderfully made and with sufficient practice learn amazingly complex tasks that require little conscious thought afterwards. We learn to ride manual bikes with clutches and we learn to ride scooters and DCTs that have nothing for the left hand to do after we learned to ride bicycles that have coaster foot brakes or hand brakes that are the reverse of a motorcycle. You will master it.

You might toot the horn when you want to signal a turn though!
 
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