I have two pairs of "Sliders", one denim and one khaki cargo pants. Kevlar lined and with adjustable knee pad holders. For running around town they work well for me and I will occasionally ride to work in them and wear them all day. They blend in without screaming "motorcycle pants", are quite heavy/warm, reasonable protection. Most of the time, however, I wear either my mesh gear over regular clothes for my daily commute in the warmer months; or my Fieldshear 3-season gear over work clothes the rest of the time. Still, for $80 a pair I'm happy with the Sliders.