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    VFR1200X vs NC700x

    Last thread I’ve seen on the VFR1200X is 3 years old and was curious what the current thinking is of the current VFR as a “step up” from the NC700x. Shaft drive seems nice, the greater power also nice. Just pondering in the “I wonder what another DCT would be like.” Not really interested in a 900 lb Gold Wing.

    Would love to see Honda upgrade the electronics on the VFR.


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    I have the VFR1200x and the NC. I will say the VFR gets most of my use these days.

    VFR1200
    Great power,
    Engine smooth as glass,
    DCT is near perfect, (I was not interested in the manual trans.)
    Shaft drive,
    Tubeless spokes,
    Small adjustable wind screen that works,
    Decent MPG but half the NC. 200 mile range when fuel light lites.
    Decent stock adjustable suspension ( but guys still mod and complain, imagine that)
    Alittle heavy, ride both back to back the VFR is large bike makes the NC feel small but in good way.

    I use the VFR in the same way I use the NC

    VFR issue in the market place was expensive and heavy. Not promoted and left in the corner. Suffered from the same lack of interest as the ST1300.

    I think your a little late to the VFR party.........as it’s been discontinued.
    There are some smokin good deals on the last of the left over 2017 bikes.......but........DCT is in very tight supply.
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    The VFR1200X would have probably been a better seller if it weighed 100 lbs less, DCT model is 633 lbs. That is ridiculously heavy. And if they at least offered an alternate model with 17 wheels with wider rear tire option. I was really interested in the VFR, almost drove to Missouri to buy a leftover DCT model for about $11k out the door. But 150/70/17 rear tire and 110/80/19 front tire are some dumb sizes, didn't want spoke wheels, and didn't want a 633 lb bike that isn't a full out cruiser, as I already have an 850 lb bagger.

    I'm hoping Honda drops something cool in 2020 available with the DCT since discontinuing the VFR1200X. But I doubt it will happen. My dream would be the CB1000R coming with available DCT option. I'd go buy one immediately and sell my NC.

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    Rode a VFR once for a day. Nice bike with a powerful motor and very heavy. At this stage of my motorcycling career it would simply be too heavy for me. In any case I was never much attracted to it. Tbh the 700/750X is a much nicer motorcycle imho. Much lighter and carries its weight much lower. Much more economical also by a large margin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TacomaJD View Post
    The VFR1200X would have probably been a better seller if it weighed 100 lbs less, DCT model is 633 lbs. That is ridiculously heavy. And if they at least offered an alternate model with 17 wheels with wider rear tire option. I was really interested in the VFR, almost drove to Missouri to buy a leftover DCT model for about $11k out the door. But 150/70/17 rear tire and 110/80/19 front tire are some dumb sizes, didn't want spoke wheels, and didn't want a 633 lb bike that isn't a full out cruiser, as I already have an 850 lb bagger.
    An alternate model offered with 17 inch no-spoke wheels is the discontinued VFR1200F. It was available with the first generation Honda DCT. Reported in the link below as being 589 pounds wet, although that may be with the manual transmission.

    I test rode one of these about 10 years ago at the Honda demo truck as a first taste of the Honda DCT, but I had no interest in or use for the motorcycle itself at the time.

    Honda VFR1200F - Wikipedia
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    Yeah I am familiar with the F model, also pretty sure I seen one in the wild Friday when I rode my Nomad over to the University to buy my books for the upcoming semester.

    I was meaning a variation of the X model, similarly to how Ducati does their Multistrada. It is available in several different models: Multistrada S, Enduro, Pike's Peak, etc. All set up a little bit differently (wheels, tank size, ride height, exhaust, windshield, etc.)

    I dig the VFR1200X if it weren't for the previously mentioned negatives. I would need the X model over the F too for the extra height and ability to mount a forward peg on the left side for my leg. That would be difficult to do on a full faired model like the F without ruining the fairing.

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    I don’t find the VFR 1200x tire sizes a problem or concern........19” front is the proper size for ADV bike used on the rode and off rode. 21” front on the 1300x would not be a good choice. The NC should come witha 19” if was true ADV bike vs ADV styling. The 19” on the 1200x makes for a better off road experience. T

    I do agree the 1200x is BIG and heavy bike........but 100 pounds would not have made a significant change in the sales numbers. The exact same weight concerns are often said about the the NC, ST1300, Goldwing, CB1000 and almost every Honda on the rode.

    Coming from the St1300 the 1200x feels light.
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    Quote Originally Posted by showkey View Post
    I don’t find the VFR 1200x tire sizes a problem or concern........19” front is the proper size for ADV bike used on the rode and off rode. 21” front on the 1300x would not be a good choice. The NC should come witha 19” if was true AVD bike vs AVD styling.
    Yes, I thought most of the big ADV bikes run on those sizes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by showkey View Post
    I don’t find the VFR 1200x tire sizes a problem or concern........19” front is the proper size for ADV bike used on the rode and off rode. 21” front on the 1300x would not be a good choice. The NC should come witha 19” if was true AVD bike vs AVD styling.
    All depends on your intended use for it. For me, it would be a problem because of the lack of sticky road rubbers made in the oem sizes. I had dug in and Avon makes the Spirit ST tire in the sizes for the Vfr1200x, that would be about the stickiest tire available for that bike. Also several of the larger ADV bikes were available with 170 rear and 120 front tires on the 17/19 rim combo, of which there are more tire options for those sizes as compared to the 150 rear 110 front thats stock on the VFR. But really. Who wants to throw around a 633 lb bike offroad? And that's BEFORE adding luggage weight. It just seems to me the VFR1200X mixed the wrong componentry together in an attempt at being a good all-rounder. Compared to the competition, the only thing the VFR1200X can offer that the others can't is the DCT option, and one might also mention the shaft drive. All the other bikes in its class outperform it significantly in most all areas, ie more power, better suspension, lighter weight, better tire sizes for options.

    Would I like to have one for free? Hell yes. But it's just not able to meet my criteria for me to purchase one, which is considerably different than most others who would be looking at the VFR1200X. My situation is a little different. I went as far as calling and getting out the door quote at the Missouri Honda dealer 7 hours away, but just couldn't get past the tire size options and the weight.

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    Rumor has it that they're bringing back the Deauville. I might consider moving off my NC for it, depending on how they do it

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