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    Yamaha MT-09??

    Anyone have any personal experience with the MT-09 (2017+) and can compare it to the NC?

    On paper it looks like the bikes are comparable with the Yamaha having some advantages.
    It's only $900 more. ($8099-$8999)
    100 more CCs.
    50 pounds less weight.
    Twice the horsepower.
    30% more torque.
    Dual front discs.
    Standard ABS and traction control.
    Selectable Engine Control maps.
    Adjustable (superior) suspension.
    But only half the gas mileage.

    The reviews on the latest model MT-09 are very positive with no major flaws, seems to be sorted really well. Most reviewers really like it.

    I love my NC750X and it truly is a great bike. It sets a high standard for reliability, affordability, torque, handling, storage and gas mileage.
    But I wonder if I might like the MT more? I'd appreciate the lighter weight, better brakes, ABS, suspension, the power.

    Anyone who can compare them??
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    I had occasion to throw a leg over one recently - I was drawn to it for many of the features you’ve pointed out. I was really disappointed with the foot pegs/controls. They are set back way more than I could ever be comfortable with.


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    The MT09 is more of a sport oriented bike than the NC, in my opinion apples to oranges when compared to one another. If sport riding is what you enjoy, the MT09 would certainly be better at it than the NC. I dig the MT09's. Sharp bikes.

    Also note the lack of wind protection. Folks like to complain about the NC and its stock windshield providing little to no wind protection, but it does more than you think when compared to a naked bike like this. Wind would beat you up more on long trips, I'd imagine it would be a little less comfortable riding position than the NC.

    Bottom line is why are you interested in the MT09 - for what type riding? If for sport riding and occasional road trip, and you can deal with a little less comfort in the name of sport performance, then the better brakes, more power, lighter weight, and slightly aggressive riding position should all provide what you need.

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    If I rode the MT-09 & NC700X to work today I'd get there in the same time. 20 years ago I would get there in half the time on the MT-09. Comes down to riding style.

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    I think I may be confused on what's what regarding the MT 09. I was under the impression the MT 09 was same as FZ 09, not the FJ 09. I'm not super familiar with either, but I'm not sure where the MT 09 name comes in. I see some things say MT 09 Tracer FJ 09. So I assume you were talking about the FJ 09 not the FZ 09, which would make perfect sense and void most of what I said above, as I thought you were considering the sportier FZ 09.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacomaJD View Post
    I think I may be confused on what's what regarding the MT 09. I was under the impression the MT 09 was same as FZ 09, not the FJ 09. I'm not super familiar with either, but I'm not sure where the MT 09 name comes in. I see some things say MT 09 Tracer FJ 09. So I assume you were talking about the FJ 09 not the FZ 09, which would make perfect sense and void most of what I said above, as I thought you were considering the sportier FZ 09.

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    Yes the MT used to be called the FZ.
    The MT-09 is comparable to our NCs in many ways. It's not called an "adventure" bike so has less clearance and travel but it is a naked standard bike with upright seating position.

    I've only had my NC for a couple of months but already wish it was more sporty and responsive with more power, better front brakes, ABS and tunable suspension.
    The NC is incredible and amazing and I love it; I get the impression the MT-09 is a lot like an NC on steroids.
    YouTube videos are interesting and revealing and I've watched dozens on these bikes and others. The reviews are so much better than what we had in the past.

    Since my NC is that new it wouldn't be financially responsible to sell or trade it now so I probably won't do anything until next year.
    And actually, I've already moved on from the MT-09, I'm now more interested in the Kaw Z900. It's cheaper at $8799 (ABS) with a 948cc inline 4 with 125 HP and 73 ft/lb TQ with the same weight as the NC. It's a rocket, but more controllable (less wheelie-prone) than the MT-09. Yamaha MT-09??-2019-z900-jpg
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    Ah, ok. I figured you may had been looking at the FJ 09, I just discovered it actually and wondered if that was really the one you were interested in.

    I have been looking at ways of adapting a manual shift bike. I have read of some reliability issues with the Pingel electric shifter setups, but still researching. If I could figure out a reliable way to shift a manual bike, I'd be seriously looking at the FJ 09. Solid power, as light and nimble as the NC, luggage options, better suspension and brakes. I need the higher ride height for clearance of a highway peg for my leg. Can pick one up for around $6-7k used.




    I've also been looking at other bikes. The Versys 1000 has caught my attention quite heavily. Big comfort, heavy but not as heavy as some (about 75 lbs lighter than the VFR1200X), inline 4 literbike engine, luggage options, perfect tire sizes 180/55/17 and 120/70/17.






    For a while, I studied Ducatis and contemplated trying to make a Multistrada work for me. My buddy just bought his 2nd Multistrada, which makes the 4th Ducati in his garage. He has a Monster, a Panigale, Multistrada Enduro, and now a '19 Multistrada Pikes Peak edition, and it is badass! Sounds so gnarly. But I figure I am better off avoiding Ducati all together, nearest dealer is a couple hours away, they are known to have problems that can be expensive or at the least extremely frustrating if covered under warranty. I feel as if they are the Harley Davidson of the sport world. I will probably just stick with my NC a while longer and see what Honda comes out with later that may have DCT option.

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    I have ridden the Tracer 900 with the three cylinder motor. By comparison with the NC motor the 900 is frantic to say the least. It is a very sporty motor and nothing about it is relaxed. The one I tried also had unacceptable high frequency vibes around the 4000 RPM mark. I just didn't like it. Some say the 700 twin in the MT07 is much better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griff View Post
    I have ridden the Tracer 900 with the three cylinder motor. By comparison with the NC motor the 900 is frantic to say the least. It is a very sporty motor and nothing about it is relaxed. The one I tried also had unacceptable high frequency vibes around the 4000 RPM mark. I just didn't like it. Some say the 700 twin in the MT07 is much better.
    Do you remember the particular year model you rode?

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    Man I am hung on this FJ 09 bike. I think I could mount a highway peg on it fairly easily, and maybe buy a replacement oem shift lever, extend it an inch or so so it would be easy to grab with my heal, rotate it upward a couple inches via the splines, and ride it without an electric shift solenoid setup. At $6k-7k, I could afford to buy one and experiment with it, if it didn't work out, sell and get most my money back, or if it does work out, sell the NC and keep it. My wheels are turning....

    I know there aren't many with the honing around riding style on this board, but I sure do miss being able to do wheelies!

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