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    Quote Originally Posted by Krampus View Post
    OK, it's been forever since I bought a new machine; actually only 1 was ever bought new in 1991 (the Ducati). So I don't remember, is there such a thing as new bike smell like an automobile? Regardless, hope it is a great experience.
    There is. I think it has to do with the engine paint baking in. You notice it on cars too, but obviously it's easier on a bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krampus View Post
    OK, it's been forever since I bought a new machine; actually only 1 was ever bought new in 1991 (the Ducati). So I don't remember, is there such a thing as new bike smell like an automobile? Regardless, hope it is a great experience.
    Quote Originally Posted by Doc True View Post
    There is. I think it has to do with the engine paint baking in. You notice it on cars too, but obviously it's easier on a bike.
    There is a new bike smell, but I call it a stink. Like Doc said, it's probably paint and plastics emitting chemicals from engine and exhaust heat. I'm happy to get rid of it after 1000 miles or so.
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    I test rode the Tracer 900 GT a couple of weeks ago and fell in love with that bike. Flickable, throttle more responsive, quick off the line, the GT model has factory cruise control (standard), heated grips (standard), but the price, nope, nada, not until the GT comes down in price to the non-gt price (probably wont happen, ever)....MSRP here in the States is $12,999 and not many coming to the USA. The Tracer 700 is not coming either (wasnt here in 2018, not going to be imported in 2019)-the Tracer 700 has a 689cc engine and 74bhp...I am not an engineer-how do they get 20+ more hp from on 19 more cc than our NC700 with 670cc and 51hp engine....
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    Quote Originally Posted by davidc83 View Post
    The Tracer 700 is not coming either (wasnt here in 2018, not going to be imported in 2019)-the Tracer 700 has a 689cc engine and 74bhp...I am not an engineer-how do they get 20+ more hp from on 19 more cc than our NC700 with 670cc and 51hp engine....
    I think the Tracer has a 10,500 RPM redline.
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    [QUOTE=davidc83;205474I am not an engineer-how do they get 20+ more hp from on 19 more cc than our NC700 with 670cc and 51hp engine....[/QUOTE]

    Don't need to be an engineer, but HS physics would be handy. This is the equation for HP:

    new bike!-hp-jpg

    So, to increase HP either Torque, RPM, or both have to be raised. Things like compression ratio, bore/stroke ratio, cam timing, ignition timing, combustion chamber geometry, intake & exhaust geometry, valve train design all effect engine characteristics. It's also 40 lbs lighter than the NC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidc83 View Post
    I test rode the Tracer 900 GT a couple of weeks ago and fell in love with that bike. Flickable, throttle more responsive, quick off the line, the GT model has factory cruise control (standard), heated grips (standard), but the price, nope, nada, not until the GT comes down in price to the non-gt price (probably wont happen, ever)....MSRP here in the States is $12,999 and not many coming to the USA. The Tracer 700 is not coming either (wasnt here in 2018, not going to be imported in 2019)-the Tracer 700 has a 689cc engine and 74bhp...I am not an engineer-how do they get 20+ more hp from on 19 more cc than our NC700 with 670cc and 51hp engine....
    Typically, Honda engines are “understressed”, meaning they are built heavier, and designed for less rpms, thus delivering less HP. This also explains why they generally are very durable, and tend to accumulate high mileage totals.
    There’s no such thing as a free lunch!
    That being said, modern manufacturing techniques, extremely fine tolerances, and great engineering make even the high revving, sportier bikes much more reliable than even 10 years ago. Win-win!


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