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    Brake balance, NC750 SA 2016

    When I compare the rear brake force with the other bikes Iíve owned, I feel it lacks power. On my model the brakes are not linked (donít think they have that feature in Denmark). It feels like the rear brake is only for small corrections or low speed braking. I know that the rear brake is a lot smaller, and that I shouldnít expect a lot happening when used. But even then, not a lot of braking is felt. Balance surely canít be 70 / 30. Bike is brand new (approx 300 km / 200 miles). Owners manual is in backorder .... sigh. Does any1 know in percent the brake balance?

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    On any significant braking the weight will transfer to the front and the rear brake will become close to useless.

    As you stated the rear brake is for low speed, or for correcting a trajectory (get in the turn). If you plan a significant braking and you have time, you may use the rear break first to sit the bike and limit transfer when you get the front brake.

    Most bikes behave this way.

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    The percentage of how much each wheel provides to total braking power is determined by when that brake is applied and with how much force. Everyone has different habits so the numbers will vary greatly from rider to rider.

    Even with a linked brake model, it isn't at all similar to an automobile where everything is controlled by one pedal.

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    The main reason I ask, is that my Yamaha 660 Tenere could do brake slides. I understand they are different types of bikes, but even my old 1978 Kawasaki Z1000 could break harder (better?) with the rear. But it is not a game breaker to be honest, if that is the way brakes on a nc750 behave. Just something new to get used to

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    Honda choose an organic pad material for the rear brake pads that has a much lower coefficient of friction than the front brake pads. I suppose they had their good reasons to do this but on the other hand we are able to obtain aftermarket pads that are rated at higher friction if one wishes to upgrade the rear brake. EBC sells sintered metal rear brake pads for the 700s in the highest friction level available. There may be other suppliers.

    I have stuck with the OEM pads. I guess I don't use much rear brake because I've never worn a set out - in 30,000 miles on the 2012 and now 28,000 on the 2015 I'm not even close to the wear indicator.

    I mostly I use the brake to settle the bike into corners and for the last few feet of rolling to a stop.
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    Thank you, dduelin. That was very good tech info

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pharfar View Post
    Thank you, dduelin. That was very good tech info
    No problem, you are welcome. You might like reading through this thread even though it starts out on front brake pads: NC700X Front Brake Pads
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    There are plenty of stories, most of them true, about aftermarket pads providing improved stopping ability but also chewing up the disc!

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    You said your bike is new (about 200 miles). When mine was new, it had very soft feeling brakes. After about 400 miles or so it had quite a bit more braking power. It was a very noticeable difference. Depending on your riding style and environment it may take a while to get the pads and rotors seated together.
    200 miles of city traffic will seat the brakes faster than 200 miles of highways.

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    When I got my NC the brakes (front & back) weren't particularly good. Besides not being fully bedded in yet, the brake rotors weren't properly cleaned before I received and the brakes needed to be bled. After cleaning and bleeding the lever & pedal were much firmer and the braking better. Keep in mind that rear brakes by design are not made to be very powerful to avoid locking up the rear wheel. The ability to easily lock the rear brake on clean dry pavement would make for very touchy braking on wet and low traction surfaces.

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