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    Quote Originally Posted by b_rubenstein View Post
    Keep in mind that rear brakes by design are not made to be very powerful to avoid locking up the rear wheel.
    ABS has been standard on the 750 models since their introduction. Ditto most of the earlier 670cc models (Euro, Canada). Seems like non-ABS brakes was a US feature.

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    I must say I had no idea that Honda was using different pads front to rear. I can say that when I returned from a test ride on a '15 DCT The salesman asked me what I thought.

    I loved the DCT and thought the power was OK for solo riding which is what I was looking for. I also said the seat sucked (I knew it would) and the rear brake felt dead. I mean really dead, as in close to worthless.

    Could it be that Honda designed it this way to protect beginner's from locking up the rear knowing they would freak out, release the brake, then tank slap and highside? What of ABS? The service manager said it just needs to scrub in.

    I still think the rear brakes are dead. I can live with that but I have three bikes and the transition is always a shock.

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    Honda is by no means the only mfg that uses pads with a lower coefficient of friction in the rear pads than the front. No matter what pads are in the rear, they can only do 25% -30% of the braking that the fronts can do. Once a wheel is sliding it doesn't do a god job of slowing the vehicle down.

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    When new, I was concerned about the lack of braking performance, esp. the front.
    About 1000km on it now, and they are much better. Overall they are not the premium stoppers I have experienced on other brands/models.
    Using both in a hard stop, now they are broken in, I feel is adequate performance. But not stellar. Have yet to ride 2 up, so I have some concern they may not be up to par for that job.

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    Just curious but which models & in which years did they start linking brakes of the various 700/750 models in North America?

    I'd be curious about these models:
    NC ... "X"
    CTX ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by melensdad View Post
    Just curious but which models & in which years did they start linking brakes of the various 700/750 models in North America?

    I'd be curious about these models:
    NC ... "X"
    CTX ...
    ”Linking” the brakes is apparently a broad concept or is done with various methods. On the 2012 and 2013 NC700X, on the ABS models, the front caliper had three pistons, and the center front caliper piston was actuated by the rear brake pedal. Beginning with 2014, the three pot front caliper went away. Fast forward to 2019, Honda advertises linked braking on the ABS models only, so I’d guess they are doing some magic within the ABS unit. With what model year that began, I don’t know.
    Last edited by 670cc; 18th July 2019 at 09:25. Reason: My bad. No combined brakes ever on non-ABS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 670cc View Post
    ”Linking” the brakes is apparently a broad concept or is done with various methods. On the 2012 and 2013 NC700X, on the ABS models, the front caliper had three pistons, and the center front caliper piston was actuated by the rear brake pedal. Beginning with 2014, the three pot front caliper went away. Fast forward to 2019, Honda advertises linked braking on the ABS models only, so I’d guess they are doing some magic within the ABS unit. With what model year that began, I don’t know.
    Hmm, so my 13 has a 3 pot caliper already, cool!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TacomaJD View Post
    Hmm, so my 13 has a 3 pot caliper already, cool!

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    Go look and you will know for sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 670cc View Post
    Go look and you will know for sure.
    Houston, we have a 3 pot.


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    The 2018 and 2019 brake looks nothing like that.

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