There are many oils available that meet Honda recommendations. I don't understand this attraction to using an oil that doesn't. Go buy a motorcycle oil for your motorcycle. I can buy proper motorcycle oil at Walmart. It's that simple.
Last edited by dduelin; 13th June 2018 at 03:35.
well, Rotella T4 15w40 also states it is a diesel engine oil, but specifically states on the back the following (which meets motorcycles jaso ma/ma2 ratings:
API, CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4; ACEA E9, JASO DH-2, MA/MA 2; Caterpillar ECF-2, ECF-3; Cummins CES 20086; DDC DFS 93K222; Deutz DQC III-10 LA; MACK EOS-4.5; MAN M3575; MB-Approval 228.31; MTU Category 2.1; Volvo VDS-4.5
Rotella T6 has:
API: CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4 ACEA E9, JASO DH-2, Cummins CES 20086; Volvo VDS-4.5; Detroit Fluid Specification DDC (DFS) 93K222, Caterpillar ECF-2/ECF-3, MAN M3575, JASO MA/ MA2, Allison TES 439, MB-Approval 228.31
Rotella T5 only lists:
API CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, Cummins CES 20086, DDC DFS 93K222, VDS-4.5, MACK EO-S - 4.5, Caterpillar ECF-2/ECF-3, Ford WSS-M2C171-F1
No JASO ratings.....
Last edited by davidc83; 13th June 2018 at 04:30.
Again, there are plenty of motorcycle oils available. Why in the world would you want to use oils engineered specifically for other engine types? If they gave out Rotella for free, I wouldn’t put it in my bike because it is not a recommended oil. dduelin described the recommendations clearly in post #4. It’s very simple to follow.
Rotella was reformulated in 2016 to meet new standards. The older formulation was SM rated, but as above the new formulation isn't. The Rotella T6 used for years in motorcycles doesn't exist any more.
Old Rotella T6:
"API CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, C4, SM, SL, SH; ACEA E9; Caterpillar ECF-3, ECF-2; Cummins CES 20081; DDC 93K218; Ford WSS M2C171-E; JASO DH2, MA; Mack EO-0 Premium Plus; MAN 3275; MB Approval 228.31; Volvo VDS-4"
New Rotella T6:
"API: CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4 ACEA E9, JASO DH-2, Cummins CES 20086; Volvo VDS-4.5; Detroit Fluid Specification DDC (DFS) 93K222, Caterpillar ECF-2/ECF-3, MAN M3575, JASO MA/ MA2, Allison TES 439, MB-Approval 228.31, Ford WSS-M2C171-F1"
The spec sheet for the "new" T6 shows SM SN rating. It's just not listed on the bottle.
Last edited by Smallville; 13th June 2018 at 20:56.
Go straight to the web site: 5W-40 Synthetic Diesel Oil | Shell Rotella(R) T6 Full Synthetic | Shell ROTELLA(R)
No API SM or SN on the T6 product sheet: https://rotella.shell.com/products/f...3/t6-5w-40.pdf
Here, Wikipedia has something to add to this topic, too:
Shell Rotella T - Wikipedia
(I'm staying with Honda's oils. One headache less.)
Last edited by Smallville; 13th June 2018 at 19:20.