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    Here are the two clips the Honda clip on the right and the TR240 on the left. The TR240 has worked every where I tried it even though it is a little longer. I find the Honda clip easier to operate but at 10 times the price.


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    Bit by the photobucket virus, I see... I'll have to read this thread later, but for now I'll just curse the trim clip in general -- and specifically the fragile practically self-imploding implementation Honda is using in a multitude of locations that would have been better served by almost anything else including bird nest saliva mixed with a black dye ; }

    And that arcane body work that requires pulling practically everything including a rack just to get at the front of the bike -- gimme a dualsport/dirtbike any day! This is (probably) the last time I'll buy a bike that doesn't have a better approach.

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    The bodywork (I have a faired CTX) seems designed for easy installation on a bare bike going down the assembly line. It doesn't seem like Honda gave any thought to it ever having to be removed after the bike left the dealership. Removing the plastic on the CTX was very traumatic ("how do these fasteners I've never seen before work, where is the hidden fastener/molded-in clip that isn't letting things release, where did the broken-off very tiny little hook piece go?), and I'm planning on leaving it off and doing something that is more conducive to ease of service.

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    Likewise -- or at least use trim clips of the same diameter that I've seen in automotive parts stores that are a lot simpler. Those are stronger and simpler, probably designed for "use once, discard, and replace" operations often favored by auto body specialists. Also ready to heap ridicule on engineering that for smallish panels that have three different machinescrew/bolt head types for no good reason ; }

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    I'll voice my opinion in favor of the Honda fasteners.

    No way would I want the one time use automotive fasteners on the motorcycle. I hate those things.

    Typical scheduled maintenance done by the owner would require a just few fasteners be removed once every 12,000 miles to access the air filter. That's about it for panel removal for planned maintenance. It's only when we need to do body repairs or modify the bike that more fasteners require removal.

    I agree that simpler fastening methods, such as on dirt bikes, would be much better. (I'd even like to see the panel color all the way through the plastic instead of being painted.) But, I've removed the panels many, many times and have yet to lose or break a clip fastener.
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    I have to grudgingly admit that there was at least one thing awesome about my otherwise much hated F800ST, and that was the ease of bodywork re/re. It all came off and went back on with a joyful and satisfying selection of nice looking torx button head stainless steel bolts. No fuss, no muss, no stupid hidden tabs that break, and require terrifying bending of fragile plastic panels.

    I don't think I've ever seen a bike with so many different ways to hide nuts and bolts, and make them a pain to deal with as the NCX...


    I would love to meet up with the designer/committee that thought the NCX bodywork attachment method was a good thing, and give them a serious talking to...
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    Most [many?] of the automotive ones can be re-used too. It's just that mechanics and autobody guys tend to rip 'em out and replace when it's faster to do it that way, since the pack of fasteners is so cheap anyway. Last time I checked anyway.

    Actually, some of them don't even replace all of them if they can get away with it ; }

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.B.S. View Post
    . . . and require terrifying bending of fragile plastic panels.
    That was my experience. I pulled with what seemed much top high of pressure and things still wouldn't come loose even though I figured they were about to break. Then "pop" and it was off, but the next panel might also pop but then break one of those little 3-4 mm molded-on hooks.

    Saving weight is nice, I'm all for it. But I've had race bikes where you could have a full fairing off the bike without damage in under a minute.

    A related somewhat amusing anecdote about Honda: a friend was a service/parts manager at a big Honda dealership in the 80s/90s. He told me that there was one model (CB750/900 IIRC) that for each of three years had a new petcock that wouldn't interchange with the previous year. Honda gets carried away some times, when they should take a page from Hodaka's book and make things that interchange forwards/backwards for multiple years because there's no good reason to not do that and make things hard on the customer/dealer.

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    All these funky hooks / fasteners sound like another way for shops too make more cash .

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