Plans today for the lovely Mrs_Bob and I to meet up with Steve to let him swing a leg over a couple different NC bikes and given the bikes a try.
Well I had a nice 2 hour meet up with Steve and both of our wives.
Steve is not from around here. At first I thought he had a Yooper accent from the UP of Michigan or maybe deep south from Mississippi
But turned out he nearly royalty and is an English friend of King George and over here, one can presume legally, from jolly old England, rides on the wrong side of the roadways, and does indeed have a short inseam. As my sister lives under the rule of Britannia and its Queen we had some commonality.
My wife's bike was set up about a half inch to 1 inch too tall for him. But we looked at the Soupy's adjustability and it appears that there is probably a 1/2 inch of play left in that lowering link. There is a bit, maybe another 1/4 inch in the rear spring load. He didn't even try to mount my steed, there was no point in that. Honestly there is plenty of attraction to him, he can easily ride a lowered NC700/750x but he will be slipping his weight off one side at a stop.
Looked over all the farkles on both bikes. The Madstad windscreens and the NEMO 2 chain oilers seemed to get much of the discussion. The cargo boxes, both the Givi and the H&B got their share of attention too. And the "Dale Rack" was not forgotten.
But I do have a question for you guru's of the model years 2012-2015: As both of mind are "new" style, one being a 2016 and the other a 2018, I known mine are dimensionally identical except for the shortening ... but does the prior style use the SAME frame and is it dimensionally the SAME? Was it just the plastics and the programming for the DCT the main 'upgrades' starting in 2016? So I guess is the 2012-15 just cosmetically different or is it dimensionally different than the 2016-2019?
2016+ models are primarily cosmetic, lighting, and electronic changes from 2012-2015 models (I avoided using the word “upgrade”). The frame is the same, except it could be perhaps painted a different color between model years, and mounting tabs for attached hardware are probably different.
I’d have to look at the specs, but I believe suspension travel, wheels, and anything else that could affect ride height are unchanged since the beginning of NC-X time.
First, Thanks Ted for the support and as you say, an exceptionally kind thing for Mr. and Mrs. Bob to do!
As Bob said, we had a very good and for me personally a very informative meet up.
My wife very much enjoyed talking to Mrs. Bob (we do know her name but privacy prevails) and meanwhile Bob talked to me about their two bikes…….one had lowering links which I was very interested in.
I did sit on the lowered bike but it was just out of my ‘comfort zone’ as is, bearing in mind that I intend to do some very light riding on unpaved, uneven surfaced roads!
As bob mentions, I believe that I could make the bike work for me with a few more modifications.
Seat to bars no problem……one good thing about stumpy legs, once on the move I am spread out and not cramped!
I very much enjoyed Bob explaining about his ‘FARKLES’, (sounds a bit naughty to me)…….his color matched cargo boxes really tied them in to the rest of the bike….rather than leaving them a complete aluminum finish!
The “Dale Rack” and especially the NEMO 2 chain boilers caught my eye for the very straight foreword design and quality!
So, it was a nice day out for the wife and myself……nice to talk to a couple that have used these bikes on a longer rides and have very good insight and advice to give!
Yes legal from day one in the states (30 short years ago), was going to Australia after one year but never got there!
Not quite as close to royalty and King George as Bob suggests……you should hear me talk, not ‘posh’ at all!
Again THANKS Bob and his better half for your time and very well received advice and conversation…..
All the best Sue and Steve
Ps…..Did I mention that we enjoyed ourselves?
The lovely Mrs_Bob's bike will be lowered a bit more when her rear tire is changed. As I have 4 new Michelin Road 5 tires on order (hoping they arrive today or tomorrow) I'm just going to take the lowering link off and adjust it down as low as it will go. I know I can get another 1/4" out of it easily but might be able to get as much as 3/4" of an inch more drop? When it comes apart we will find out. The goal is to get Mrs_Bob to be able to flat foot BOTH feet when we are done. Now she is flat on one foot + ball of the foot on the other side. We shall see. We shall see.
As for the NEMO 2, it should be noted that I switched from "Bar & Chain Oil" which is used on chain saws and over to heavier 85-140 Gear Oil. I was getting a bit to much 'fling off' from the bar & chain oil and making a bit too much of a mess.
Re lowering. I too am of short inseam.
My 2013 is lowered with some links a friend made in his metal fab shop—he has a water cutting machine and made me the size I wanted.
I also put in a CBR 600 shock which both improved ride and handling and lowered another .5 inch.
It’s still tall for me, but quite manageable.
What year shock did you use……did it have a remote reservoir and if so where did you mount it!
A lot of questions in one line…
Look to the past, but do not stare ........
When you and I looked at the adjustment we thought the last few turns on it would lower it. Actually that was the wrong way. By extending several more turns the bike gets lower. By shortening it the bike gets taller. So there was a LOT more adjustability to lower the bike than we thought. I’m going to have to cut more off the kickstand!!!
If you want to try again we can probably arrange another meet up.
Last edited by melensdad; 12th September 2019 at 10:09.