Last edited by Techrat; 11th August 2019 at 08:20.
The long and the short of it (as I see it, feel free to disagree) is that a true MANUAL transmission can only be operated MANUALLY. If the machine is capable of operating it AUTOMATICALLY for you, it's an AUTOMATIC transmission. There are many styles of AUTOMATIC transmission, such as the traditional automatic we all know and hate with a torque converter and planetary gears, the DCT, and the CVT. Just because it's not a TRADITIONAL AUTOMATIC doesn't mean it's a MANUAL. Arguing that since you can set it to M and push buttons to change gears makes it MANUAL means basically everything is a MANUAL, since even cars with AUTOMATIC transmissions for the most part have tip/tap shift, or at least a couple of gear selection options.
If you put an electric shifter and auto clutch on a manual transmission bike, does that make it auto? How about if you have the parts installed but the shifter turned off, and you're using it like a stock bike?
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Does the transmission have the capability to automatically select the gear for you, or do you have to manually select the gear? While I agree that's a bit more of a gray area (and more of a custom mechanism scenario, I'd imagine), my personal line is whether the machine has the ability to select the gear or not. Others may disagree.
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